Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the News

[Topper]

I'd have missed the Pullman question. Only out of luck did I happen to know the Younger question, and I know enough to know that it's a discrete issue that rarely comes up and when it does it is an easy issue. I don't care that he didn't know those questions.

The motion in limine thing bothered me though.

For me it would have been reversed, as Pullman was a bar question but Younger is too new for me.

I don't believe one must have jury trial experience if one has sufficient trial court experience. But a person who's never tried a single case nominated for the trial bench, why?

[LiveCoug]

How could he not know what a motion in limine is? How is that even possible, even if you aren't a litigator?

I'm not a litigator and I have no clue what that is.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm not a litigator and I have no clue what that is.

I know what it means! I was the target of a motion in limine this past summer.

(it was denied)

[All-American]

I'm not a litigator and I have no clue what that is.

Well, sounds like you are a perfect candidate for lifetime appointment as an article III judge.

[All-American]

For me it would have been reversed, as Pullman was a bar question but Younger is too new for me.

I don't believe one must have jury trial experience if one has sufficient trial court experience. But a person who's never tried a single case nominated for the trial bench, why?

I actually knew the concept, just not by that name.

[Topper]

I'm not a litigator and I have no clue what that is.

It's a motion in advance to preclude the presentation before a jury. You use it to ensure the jury doesn't hear prejudicial evidence before the judge excludes in order to avoid the "rung bell" syndrome.

Attorney A: Judge I'd like to make a motion outside the hearing of the jury
Judge: Okay.
[Judge excludes jury to hear argument by counsel].

Usually you make these motions in advance of trial. In limine means "on the threshhold" and most evidence professors will speak of them in law school. It is a very common phrase and for a person not to know it, means he wasn't listening.

[All-American]

It's a motion in advance to preclude the presentation before a jury. You use it to ensure the jury doesn't hear prejudicial evidence before the judge excludes in order to avoid the "wrung bell" syndrome.

Attorney A: Judge I'd like to make a motion outside the hearing of the jury
Judge: Okay.
[Judge excludes jury to hear argument by counsel].

Usually you make these motions in advance of trial. In limine means "on the threshhold" and most evidence professors will speak of them in law school. It is a very common phrase and for a person not to know it, means he wasn't listening.

I know quite a few lawyers who don't know the concept, but none are litigators.

[Topper]

I actually knew the concept, just not by that name.

I have no reason to know the Younger Abstention doctrine because I practice no criminal law. And stuff that wasn't taught in law school, if it's outside my area, I am unlikely to know. 2014 is way past my law school years. But I am learning all the time.

Now if somebody wants to ask me about Greber, the "any purpose" rule, Hanlester Network as overruled by the ACA, I am all ready for that one. Or even 280E's impact on deductibility of ordinary business expenses for illegal businesses. I'm your guy.

[creekster]

I know quite a few lawyers who don't know the concept, but none are litigators.

I have been a litigator for my entire career. So I am biased, obviously. Nonetheless, I find it hard to believe that any competent attorney who has even a basic understanding of trial process would nit know what one is. More pertinently, somebody that ignorant of trial process has no business being a trial judge IMO.

[Topper]

I have been a litigator for my entire career. So I am biased, obviously. Nonetheless, I find it hard to believe that any competent attorney who has even a basic understanding of trial process would nit know what one is. More pertinently, somebody that ignorant of trial process has no business being a trial judge IMO.

I am a business attorney but I do try a few cases each year, and once in a while a jury trial. But I was unaware there are attorneys who don't know that basic concept and agree if you are that unaware you don't belong on the trial bench.

[Copelius]

He is no general practitioner, no trial lawyer and no litigator, yet he was appointed to serve as a US District Court judge. This a court of general jurisdiction, requiring knowledge of the FRCP and FRE for every hearing, as well as the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. If you don't have a working familiarity with those, you can't do your job.

It doesn't make him incompetent for the FEC, but it does for the US District bench. Litigants deserve better than a novice with no litigation experience. One doesn't need to be a world beater to be a competent judge, but zero experience?

See Judge Chon in Utah.

[Topper]

See Judge Chon in Utah.

This Judge?

https://judges.utah.gov/reports/judg...hon-su/2016-2/

[New Mexican Disaster]

I think we covered motions in limine the first or second day of trial practice. That is inexcusable.

[PaloAltoCougar]

As part of my initial training at the big firm, I worked on a couple of litigation matters (this was 35 years ago) and I still remember well motions in limine, but I'm clueless on Pullman and Younger. A few years ago a Superior Court judge indicated his interest in giving Jerry Brown my name as a nominee for a judgeship. I declined because (a) I don't think anyone three decades removed from a courtroom should be considered for the bench, nor should dunces like the guy in question here, and (b) I was informed I would have to work every day, with regular hours, a prospect I found depressing and undesirable.

[LVAllen]

As part of my initial training at the big firm, I worked on a couple of litigation matters (this was 35 years ago) and I still remember well motions in limine, but I'm clueless on Pullman and Younger. A few years ago a Superior Court judge indicated his interest in giving Jerry Brown my name as a nominee for a judgeship. I declined because (a) I don't think anyone three decades removed from a courtroom should be considered for the bench, nor should dunces like the guy in question here, and (b) I was informed I would have to work every day, with regular hours, a prospect I found depressing and undesirable.

PAC, ladies and gentlemen. Winner and still Champion of the heavyweight humblebrag division.

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