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  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
    I would be disappointed in CC if the allegations are true.
    Oh good.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

    Dig your own grave, and save!

    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • BYU and UVa grad being excoriated on examination for judicial appointment. He donates lots of time for youth.

      https://youtu.be/c-zvNnFjk3Q

      https://youtu.be/c-zvNnFjk3Q
      Last edited by Topper; 12-15-2017, 07:54 AM.
      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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      • Originally posted by falafel View Post
        Oh good.
        CC has been discussed numerous times on this board and is generally held up as some sort of super-Mormon who has somehow climbed his way into the elite at HBC and the business world. I've always been in awe of the guy. I think it's sad if the allegations are true and he's screwing a fellow member over for personal gain. Even worse if they are truly claiming that they do not have to pay because they signed a contract that they failed to read.

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        • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
          CC has been discussed numerous times on this board and is generally held up as some sort of super-Mormon who has somehow climbed his way into the elite at HBC and the business world. I've always been in awe of the guy. I think it's sad if the allegations are true and he's screwing a fellow member over for personal gain. Even worse if they are truly claiming that they do not have to pay because they signed a contract that they failed to read.
          It would be sad if these allegations are true, given his exalted status within the tribe.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
            CC has been discussed numerous times on this board and is generally held up as some sort of super-Mormon who has somehow climbed his way into the elite at HBC and the business world. I've always been in awe of the guy. I think it's sad if the allegations are true and he's screwing a fellow member over for personal gain. Even worse if they are truly claiming that they do not have to pay because they signed a contract that they failed to read.
            Unless I had a big retainer and I informed CC that he was overwhelmingly likely to lose and the best he could hope for was to knock a few million off of what he owes in a settlement, I wouldn't want to be his attorney in this case.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • Originally posted by Topper View Post
              BYU and UVa grad being excoriated on examination for judicial appointment. He donates lots of time for youth.

              https://youtu.be/c-zvNnFjk3Q

              This is making the rounds. Poor guy. AT the same time, how did he not do at least a little prep for a hearing like that? Maybe look through a list of common motions, like motion in limine.
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                This is making the rounds. Poor guy. AT the same time, how did he not do at least a little prep for a hearing like that? Maybe look through a list of common motions, like motion in limine.
                Younger abstention is fairly new and for criminal law practitioners and Pullman is old but not invoked very often. The in limine should have been divined just from the Latin.
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  This is making the rounds. Poor guy. AT the same time, how did he not do at least a little prep for a hearing like that? Maybe look through a list of common motions, like motion in limine.
                  How could he not know what a motion in limine is? How is that even possible, even if you aren't a litigator?
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                    How could he not know what a motion in limine is? How is that even possible, even if you aren't a litigator?
                    He barely passed civil procedure? Or Evidence?

                    Maybe those aren’t required courses at UVA law.
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      How could he not know what a motion in limine is? How is that even possible, even if you aren't a litigator?
                      That's hard to wrap your mind around.

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                      • I understand the outrage, but 8 years out of law school and I wouldn’t have been able to answer those questions either.

                        I also would have been prepared for a congressional hearing, however.

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                        • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                          I understand the outrage, but 8 years out of law school and I wouldn’t have been able to answer those questions either.

                          I also would have been prepared for a congressional hearing, however.

                          You
                          Would you accept a nomination for a job for which you would not be qualified?
                          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                          • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                            I understand the outrage, but 8 years out of law school and I wouldn’t have been able to answer those questions either.

                            I also would have been prepared for a congressional hearing, however.

                            You
                            Because he's been busy as a member of the FEC since 2008? And before then, he practiced campaign finance law and counseled a House committee? I can guarantee you, none of those topics have arisen in his practice. That doesn't make him an incompetent lawyer.

                            And I'm not entirely certain how one goes about preparing for a Senate hearing, when pretty much every conceivable question is fair game.

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                            • Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
                              Because he's been busy as a member of the FEC since 2008? And before then, he practiced campaign finance law and counseled a House committee? I can guarantee you, none of those topics have arisen in his practice. That doesn't make him an incompetent lawyer.

                              And I'm not entirely certain how one goes about preparing for a Senate hearing, when pretty much every conceivable question is fair game.
                              He is no general practitioner, no trial lawyer and no litigator, yet he was appointed to serve as a US District Court judge. This a court of general jurisdiction, requiring knowledge of the FRCP and FRE for every hearing, as well as the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. If you don't have a working familiarity with those, you can't do your job.

                              It doesn't make him incompetent for the FEC, but it does for the US District bench. Litigants deserve better than a novice with no litigation experience. One doesn't need to be a world beater to be a competent judge, but zero experience?
                              "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                              Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                              • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                                I understand the outrage, but 8 years out of law school and I wouldn’t have been able to answer those questions either.

                                I also would have been prepared for a congressional hearing, however.

                                You
                                I'd have missed the Pullman question. Only out of luck did I happen to know the Younger question, and I know enough to know that it's a discrete issue that rarely comes up and when it does it is an easy issue. I don't care that he didn't know those questions.

                                The motion in limine thing bothered me though.
                                τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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