Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the News

[Donuthole]

Yes, people have the right to seek compensation (i.e. sue) for all manner of injury. Determining whether the injury was real or just perceived, and the extent of the injury, and what parties should be held accountable, and in what manner or to what extent, is the entire purpose of the civil court system, no? (Note: IANAL so I may not have my terminology perfectly correct but I think you get my drift that I understand and acknowledge that people have the right to sue)

That someone could have been abused is one level of disturbing, that the abuse could have come from a religious leader is another level of disturbing, that the religious leader could have used their position as a means to groom and carry out the abuse is another level, that this could happen at such a frequency that lawyers would advertise on mass media for potential clients is another level of disturbing, that a lawyer could possibly have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, that the party sued could also have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, and that Xitter would think I’m a candidate for such ads is yet another level of disturbing. There are probably other levels I’ve failed to enumerate. As stated, it’s disturbing on many levels.

These just feel like different stations on the main floor of disturbation. But that’s just me.

FWIW, you would be surprised the number of people who don’t believe in general civil damages. Or at least don’t until something bad happens to them. I get these people kicked off my juries all the time. They are usually all nutters of some kind (sovereign citizen types are the most common) but every so often there is someone who seems completely normal, intelligent and otherwise just can’t bring themselves to award damages.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Found out a while back that our former stake president was accused of child molestation. Apparently it was true because he shot himself.

[Green Monstah]

Yes, people have the right to seek compensation (i.e. sue) for all manner of injury. Determining whether the injury was real or just perceived, and the extent of the injury, and what parties should be held accountable, and in what manner or to what extent, is the entire purpose of the civil court system, no? (Note: IANAL so I may not have my terminology perfectly correct but I think you get my drift that I understand and acknowledge that people have the right to sue)

That someone could have been abused is one level of disturbing, that the abuse could have come from a religious leader is another level of disturbing, that the religious leader could have used their position as a means to groom and carry out the abuse is another level, that this could happen at such a frequency that lawyers would advertise on mass media for potential clients is another level of disturbing, that a lawyer could possibly have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, that the party sued could also have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, and that Xitter would think I’m a candidate for such ads is yet another level of disturbing. There are probably other levels I’ve failed to enumerate. As stated, it’s disturbing on many levels.

In rural Mormon towns in AZ, I think you’d be shocked how much sexual abuse has occurred. Not all are leader-subordinate, but plenty of abuse among LDS family members.

Google Bruce O’dell master slave urine. He played the organ at my uncles funeral shortly before he was indicted. Another uncle was the stake president that called him to be a bishop.

I almost delayed my mission because I was so shaken up over how my uncle could feel inspired to call a predator as a bishop.

A decadenlayer, I sadly learned my grandpa grandpa (a former juvenile detention officer) and several of his brothers were predators. And my uncles (as a bishop and stake president) would have perps confront their victims in bishops/SP’s office and basically gaslight the victim. That tactic was also used on a sibling of mine who accused a family member. It’s all so fucked up.

The church is 100x better than it was pre-internet era. But it bugs the shit out of me that they will not notify cops of abuse in states where reporting isn’t mandatory.

[Bo Diddley]

Yes, people have the right to seek compensation (i.e. sue) for all manner of injury. Determining whether the injury was real or just perceived, and the extent of the injury, and what parties should be held accountable, and in what manner or to what extent, is the entire purpose of the civil court system, no? (Note: IANAL so I may not have my terminology perfectly correct but I think you get my drift that I understand and acknowledge that people have the right to sue)

That someone could have been abused is one level of disturbing, that the abuse could have come from a religious leader is another level of disturbing, that the religious leader could have used their position as a means to groom and carry out the abuse is another level, that this could happen at such a frequency that lawyers would advertise on mass media for potential clients is another level of disturbing, that a lawyer could possibly have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, that the party sued could also have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, and that Xitter would think I’m a candidate for such ads is yet another level of disturbing. There are probably other levels I’ve failed to enumerate. As stated, it’s disturbing on many levels.

That acronym is yet another level of disturbing.

[BigFatMeanie]

I think we find that ad distasteful because we are card-carrying members of the Church, but if someone was legitimately sexually abused by a Church leader who used his leadership position as a means to groom and carry out the abuse, do you think the person has a right to seek compensation from the Church?

Yes, people have the right to seek compensation (i.e. sue) for all manner of injury. Determining whether the injury was real or just perceived, and the extent of the injury, and what parties should be held accountable, and in what manner or to what extent, is the entire purpose of the civil court system, no? (Note: IANAL so I may not have my terminology perfectly correct but I think you get my drift that I understand and acknowledge that people have the right to sue)

That someone could have been abused is one level of disturbing, that the abuse could have come from a religious leader is another level of disturbing, that the religious leader could have used their position as a means to groom and carry out the abuse is another level, that this could happen at such a frequency that lawyers would advertise on mass media for potential clients is another level of disturbing, that a lawyer could possibly have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, that the party sued could also have more on their minds than concern for and restitution to the victim is another level, and that Xitter would think I’m a candidate for such ads is yet another level of disturbing. There are probably other levels I’ve failed to enumerate. As stated, it’s disturbing on many levels.

[Clark Addison]

Not sure where to put this, but this is an ad I just got on Twitter. This is disturbing on several levels:


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Is that an AI generated foyer?

[Donuthole]

Not sure where to put this, but this is an ad I just got on Twitter. This is disturbing on several levels:


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I think we find that ad distasteful because we are card-carrying members of the Church, but if someone was legitimately sexually abused by a Church leader who used his leadership position as a means to groom and carry out the abuse, do you think the person has a right to seek compensation from the Church?

[BigFatMeanie]

Not sure where to put this, but this is an ad I just got on Twitter. This is disturbing on several levels:


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[Clark Addison]

SoonerCoug is also my life-mentor

[wally]

I remember SoonerCoug once saying that he always votes "no" on retaining judges. That is when I started my tradition of doing the same. If they are a good judge and get voted out, i am sure they can just get re-appointed, right?

[MartyFunkhouser]

What is going on with with Utah judges right now? First this and now Judge William Kendall under criminal investigation.

[falafel]

Hard to imagine he'll have many friends on the inside. Child abuse is the one thing even prisoners think is awful. And heaven help him if he meets anyone that he put in there himself.

I'm getting emails today about a vacancy in the justice court that serves Box Elder and Willard, and would I like to apply (same email sent to all the bar)? The vacancy comes after the resignation of one Kevin Christensen.

A real bad time to be from Danish ancestors.

[LVAllen]

I'm getting emails today about a vacancy in the justice court that serves Box Elder and Willard, and would I like to apply (same email sent to all the bar)? The vacancy comes after the resignation of one Kevin Christensen.

I imagine the Kevin Christensen who is an long-time attorney in Las Vegas and also on the BYU Alumni Association is fielding some awkward calls. "No, no, that's Kevin ROBERT Christensen. I'm Kevin BLAIR Christensen."

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm getting emails today about a vacancy in the justice court that serves Box Elder and Willard, and would I like to apply (same email sent to all the bar)? The vacancy comes after the resignation of one Kevin Christensen.

All you would have to do is not be a pedo and you would be better than the previous guy.

[falafel]

Hard to imagine he'll have many friends on the inside. Child abuse is the one thing even prisoners think is awful. And heaven help him if he meets anyone that he put in there himself.

I'm getting emails today about a vacancy in the justice court that serves Box Elder and Willard, and would I like to apply (same email sent to all the bar)? The vacancy comes after the resignation of one Kevin Christensen.