BYU Religion Dept Hire

[Jeff Lebowski]

Just saw this essay on a new hire in the BYU Religion Dept.

http://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHudso...Scripture.html

BYU Religion Dept hired a young mother to a full-time position, reversing a long-standing ban in that department. But it looks like there is still a ban in the CES for seminary teachers. You can be a young mom on work full-time as a secretary or office assistant, but not as a seminary teacher. Can't believe that they have that policy in 2013. Ugh...

[Donuthole]

Just saw this essay on a new hire in the BYU Religion Dept.

http://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHudso...Scripture.html

BYU Religion Dept hired a young mother to a full-time position, reversing a long-standing ban in that department. But it looks like there is still a ban in the CES for seminary teachers. You can be a young mom on work full-time as a secretary or office assistant, but not as a seminary teacher. Can't believe that they have that policy in 2013. Ugh...

God's timeline and man's timeline are almost universally at odds with each other.

[Surfah]

Just saw this essay on a new hire in the BYU Religion Dept.

http://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHudso...Scripture.html

BYU Religion Dept hired a young mother to a full-time position, reversing a long-standing ban in that department. But it looks like there is still a ban in the CES for seminary teachers. You can be a young mom on work full-time as a secretary or office assistant, but not as a seminary teacher. Can't believe that they have that policy in 2013. Ugh...

I don't understand the need for full-time paid CES instructors anymore. I know that in many places they have removed them. In my wife's hometown of McMinnville, OR they have release time seminary and used to have a CES instructor teaching seminary during the day and institute twice a week in the evenings but they replaced him with local members called. I think that CES instructor moved to Idaho for a job and then eventually left CES altogether. Same thing here in Fredericksburg. Our full time instructor was relocated west several years ago.

[Indy Coug]

Awesome, I sense a new crusade burgeoning.

[PaloAltoCougar]

J...You can be a young mom on work full-time as a secretary or office assistant, but not as a seminary teacher. Can't believe that they have that policy in 2013. Ugh...

Mothers with children in the home can serve as unpaid, early morning seminary teachers (I've slept with one! Actually, I slept while she went off to teach). I guess the important principle being served by this odd policy is that mothers can teach Seminary as long as they're not paid.

[byu71]

Just saw this essay on a new hire in the BYU Religion Dept.

http://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHudso...Scripture.html

BYU Religion Dept hired a young mother to a full-time position, reversing a long-standing ban in that department. But it looks like there is still a ban in the CES for seminary teachers. You can be a young mom on work full-time as a secretary or office assistant, but not as a seminary teacher. Can't believe that they have that policy in 2013. Ugh...

It may have to due with the leaders having grown up in a long ago era. "Avoid the very appearance of evil" was taught rigorously. That's why you won't find LDS faithful of my generation in a sports bar or walking down the strip in Vegas looking at billboards.

[Harry Tic]

Awesome, I sense a new crusade burgeoning.

Look no further for your next avatar, Indy.

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That's SISTER Debbie to you.

[pellegrino]

I don't understand the need for full-time paid CES instructors anymore. I know that in many places they have removed them. In my wife's hometown of McMinnville, OR they have release time seminary and used to have a CES instructor teaching seminary during the day and institute twice a week in the evenings but they replaced him with local members called. I think that CES instructor moved to Idaho for a job and then eventually left CES altogether. Same thing here in Fredericksburg. Our full time instructor was relocated west several years ago.

CES is an antiquated system that bleeds money. I don't see it surviving another generation.

[jay santos]

CES is an antiquated system that bleeds money. I don't see it surviving another generation.

Hmm, that's an interesting thought. Yes, it's expensive. But the church doesn't seem to be strapped for cash. If that changed, the CES system could easily be an area they slash.

[byu71]

Mothers with children in the home can serve as unpaid, early morning seminary teachers (I've slept with one! Actually, I slept while she went off to teach). I guess the important principle being served by this odd policy is that mothers can teach Seminary as long as they're not paid.

Do you know why they can't be paid. Is it because they don't have the Priesthood and so they are like interns? Or is it like I suspect that in the mormon psyche we still don't want women working. If we don't pay them they are volunteers and no one can say the church is hypocritical.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Mothers with children in the home can serve as unpaid, early morning seminary teachers (I've slept with one! Actually, I slept while she went off to teach). I guess the important principle being served by this odd policy is that mothers can teach Seminary as long as they're not paid.

Exactly. I think that point was made either in the article or in the attached letter. Crazy.

[TripletDaddy]

What does a F/T seminary teacher make working for CES? I'm shocked that there are enough candidates to maintain a paid CES program.

[Jeff Lebowski]

What does a F/T seminary teacher make working for CES? I'm shocked that there are enough candidates to maintain a paid CES program.

I know someone who went through the training/application process. Believe it or not, it is a highly competitive position and they turn away a lot of applicants. Also, the pay and benefits are generally superior to what one would earn as a public school teacher.

[San Juan Sun]

What does a F/T seminary teacher make working for CES? I'm shocked that there are enough candidates to maintain a paid CES program.

I toyed with the idea of being a seminary teacher post-mission. The future Mrs. SJS talked me out of it. Thanks honey!

[Rickomatic]

I know someone who went through the training/application process. Believe it or not, it is a highly competitive position and they turn away a lot of applicants. Also, the pay and benefits are generally superior to what one would earn as a public school teacher.

I had a neighbor spend four years trying to get accepted. After he finally was accepted into the program and made it through the one year of unpaid training; was told there were no openings available in the local area and would have to move if he wanted to teach seminary.