If a female tried to get into the priesthood session of GC...

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • TripletDaddy
    sweet triple
    • Nov 2008
    • 58186

    #1426
    Originally posted by All-American View Post
    You just don't understand. The oppression is what makes them so great. Like the string on a kite.
    Plus women like being oppressed even if they don't admit it. They all do.
    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

    sigpic

    Comment

    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69385

      #1427
      This is how I picture funk in most threads.

      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

      Comment

      • All-American
        Right, as Usual
        • Nov 2008
        • 15635

        #1428
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        This is how I picture funk in most threads.

        And there's a kite on the other end of the line, by the way. (The line is actually holding it up.)
        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

        Comment

        • HuskyFreeNorthwest
          Time to camp
          • Nov 2008
          • 26082

          #1429
          Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
          imo, it's really the fault of the husbands who don't keep their wives in check
          Get confident, stupid
          -landpoke

          Comment

          • Moliere
            One man.....one pie
            • Oct 2009
            • 27756

            #1430
            How do we respect someone's religious beliefs, while also holding religion accountable for the damage those beliefs may cause? Chelsea Shields has a bold answer to this question. She was raised in the orthodox Mormon tradition, and she spent the early part of her life watching women be excluded from positions of importance within the LDS Church. Now, this anthropologist, activist and TED Fellow is working to reform her church's institutionalized gender inequality. "Religions can liberate or subjugate, they can empower or exploit, they can comfort or destroy," she says. "What is taught on the Sabbath leaks into our politics, our health policy, violence around the world."


            Pretty good talk, however she makes some grand exaggerations. The most shocking element of the talk is that she uses the "Mormon woman in General Conference" voice many, many times.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

            Comment

            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #1431
              Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              http://www.ted.com/talks/chelsea_shi...side_my_church

              Pretty good talk, however she makes some grand exaggerations. The most shocking element of the talk is that she uses the "Mormon woman in General Conference" voice many, many times.
              Either she is very dumb or willfully misrepresenting Mormon belief to make a point.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

              Comment

              • Katy Lied
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 9435

                #1432
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Now that I am ignoring all posts by Topper, I can't tell you how much more enjoyable this board is. Highly recommended.
                Then you are missing some zingers about SU today.

                Comment

                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27756

                  #1433
                  Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                  Either she is very dumb or willfully misrepresenting Mormon belief to make a point.
                  Yeah, it's a failing of most progmos to overgeneralize some teachings and doctrines. I think she could have made just as good of a point in regards to patriarchy without resorting to overgeneralized patriarchal teachings/doctrines...but her crowd for the talk isn't the active Mormon crowd and maybe she knew that.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

                  Comment

                  • MartyFunkhouser
                    Disciple of RNGesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 18695

                    #1434
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    Either she is very dumb or willfully misrepresenting Mormon belief to make a point.
                    She is certainly not stupid. Also, what is she willfully misrepresenting about Mormon belief?
                    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                    --Kendrick Lamar

                    Comment

                    • Donuthole
                      Official Outgayer
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 25211

                      #1435
                      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                      She is certainly not stupid. Also, what is she willfully misrepresenting about Mormon belief?
                      I made it to the 00:58 point, at which point she had just made three willful misrepresentations.
                      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                      There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

                      Comment

                      • SCcoug
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7625

                        #1436
                        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                        I made it to the 00:58 point, at which point she had just made three willful misrepresentations.
                        So is it a pretty good talk or not?

                        Comment

                        • falafel
                          loves to talk on things
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 37825

                          #1437
                          Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                          I made it to the 00:58 point, at which point she had just made three willful misrepresentations.
                          I don't think mpfunk is disputing that point, I just think he is taking the Topper approach of not doing any independent research and just asking everyone to explain everything to him.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                          Dig your own grave, and save!

                          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

                          Comment

                          • scottie
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 5247

                            #1438
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Yeah, it's a failing of most mos and progmos to overgeneralize some teachings and doctrines. I think she could have made just as good of a point in regards to patriarchy without resorting to overgeneralized patriarchal teachings/doctrines...but her crowd for the talk isn't the active Mormon crowd and maybe she knew that.
                            FIFY.

                            Comment

                            • MartyFunkhouser
                              Disciple of RNGesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18695

                              #1439
                              Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              I don't think mpfunk is disputing that point, I just think he is taking the Topper approach of not doing any independent research and just asking everyone to explain everything to him.
                              No I've read the transcript. I'm not seeing the willful misrepresentations.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

                              Comment

                              • Moliere
                                One man.....one pie
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 27756

                                #1440
                                Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                                No I've read the transcript. I'm not seeing the willful misrepresentations.
                                For starters, she said that parents tell their children they would rather have them come home dead from a mission instead of having sinned (and I assume she meant come home early). She also said you can't go to the celestial kingdom if you don't wear sleeves. I'm pretty sure that most Mormons would disagree that those are hard and fast doctrines. Sure that stuff is preached from time to time, but it is certainly not widespread nor is it common belief.

                                It's too bad, too...since the end of the talk she makes some very good points.
                                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

                                Comment

                                Working...