Miss Utah

[byu71]

The answer to the question is obvious. It's a question about discrimination.

I can understand how someone would want to be tactful about mentioning discrimination, but I don't think this was a matter of her trying to be tactful.

Think of all the Mormon women you know. How many Mormon women think they are discriminated against? Very few.

That makes this an especially difficult question for a Mormon woman to answer. The answer should have been obvious, but it wasn't to her. Besides I haven't read the book on the politically correct answer to questions.

I think I can tell what she was thinking but had a hard time expressing:

"Women earn less because they have less education because they are usually trying to be stay-at-home moms rather than work. But it would help if women were better educated so they could make more money if they end up needing to work."

But that isn't really the issue. The more obvious issue is discrimination, which I'm sure she never even considered for a second. Mormons are very slow to allege discrimination unless it's anti-white or anti-Mormon discrimination.

I know I am not a woman raised in a mormon household. I am also well educated and very experienced in life. I probably would have screwed up the question because I don't know if anyone has a verified proven answer to offer.

Are you saying your answer would be simply, "women are discrimated against"?

[Uncle Ted]

The answer to the question is obvious. It's a question about discrimination.

I can understand how someone would want to be tactful about mentioning discrimination, but I don't think this was a matter of her trying to be tactful.

Think of all the Mormon women you know. How many Mormon women think they are discriminated against? Very few.

That makes this an especially difficult question for a Mormon woman to answer. The answer should have been obvious, but it wasn't to her.

I think I can tell what she was thinking but had a hard time expressing:

"Women earn less because they have less education because they are usually trying to be stay-at-home moms rather than work. But it would help if women were better educated so they could make more money if they end up needing to work."

But that isn't really the issue. The more obvious issue is discrimination, which I'm sure she never even considered for a second. Mormons are very slow to allege discrimination unless it's anti-white or anti-Mormon discrimination.

The correct answer is "There isn't discrimination. I know a very successful executive that keep 'binders full of women'."

[Indy Coug]

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=10745966

National Public Radio's Linda Holmes on question asked of Miss Utah

"I think about this kind of stuff a lot. I've studied it. I've had about 20 years longer than Miss Utah USA to think about it. I have no idea what I would have said if someone had asked me such a moronic question on live television," Holmes said.

[SCcoug]

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=10745966

I didn't know she was Mormon too.

[byu71]

As far as mormon women knowing their "place" and not minding it, my three daughter-in-laws must have not been very good listeners in church growing up.

[Omaha 680]

I don't care about her answer, but I listened to the question because of the posts on here. Turns out my suspicions were correct, and the question was just more unsophisticated tripe with no statistical backup that only serves get an emotional response from the uninformed. A true analysis of the alleged gender pay gap in the USA would be a complex analysis that takes into account things like years in the workforce and chosen vocation. Those are the two things that greatly affect pay. Studies that control for these factors have shown that there is little to no gender pay gap. But statistics that are trotted out to show a gender gap just show that men on average make more than women in the same age group. That data is really useless.

There can be a discussion about the societal pressures for women to have children and the sacrifice they make in lost time in the workforce and the resulting lower pay when they take time off to raise children even for a few years. But that is different from claims of discrimination by employers. Widespread discrimination such as pay difference should show up in empirical data.

[wally]

I think that a more practical approach to the Q&A sessions for these beauty pagents would be to ask the lady what her favorite color, food and hobbies are and then do like a dance or something. Let's not pretend that there are any legitimate scientists in this group.

[il Padrino Ute]

It's hard for a Mormon woman to say that women are discriminated against--extremely hard to say it if they don't even think it.

Perhaps Mormon women are not easily offended sissy-girls like most feminists are.

[frank ryan]

Perhaps Mormon women are not easily offended sissy-girls like most feminists are.

I think Miss Utah is pretty feministy.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Let's not pretend that there are any legitimate scientists in this group.

What do you mean?

[Dwight Schr-ute]

She got another shot!

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25644587&nid...tl8kbMN1t28UpM

[Jeff Lebowski]

She got another shot!

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=25644587&nid...tl8kbMN1t28UpM

That was a nice answer.

I feel sorry for her. Stage fright at that level would kill a lot of us.

[Donuthole]

She still doesn't answer the question. But that's mostly because it's a terribly-phrased question. She does, however, still look moderately "porny" (which may or may not be a good thing).

[clackamascoug]

Even in Oregon this is getting big air time.

[frank ryan]

That was a nice answer.

I feel sorry for her. Stage fright at that level would kill a lot of us.

That is what happened. She is not dumb.