Originally posted by Portland Ute
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Well, more women will serve now, for sure."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon -
They might not think they will go down to where they were before, but the almost certainly won't stay where they are right now. Right now you have all the kids that would normally be in the mission in the past PLUS all the ones that are from 18-19 (boys) and from 19-21 (girls) that are going along with them.Originally posted by statman View Post
Eventually, even if the numbers of girls stays the same, this two year "injection" of women into the field will become the norm, but you won't have nearly as many 20 an 21 year old girls out there.
Same thing goes for boys. A year...year and a half from now, the numbers will be almost identical to what they were a year ago...maybe *slightly* higher because you won will probably capture a number of kids that might not have gone had they needed to wait until 19 to leave and 21 to get home.
I agree that in the future, there will be more missionaries than before....but the number will max out in the next 6 months or a year and will recede significantly when the missionaries from the former age requirements filter through and phase out.Comment
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Right. I agree. But this insane number of missionaries will max out and the new normal, while higher than the former normal, will not be anywhere near the peak number we'll see in the next 6 months or a year.Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
Put another way, with the boys, you are kind of "eating your seed corn" a year early. Roughly, I'd say you've got about 35-40% more males out at the peak of this change over than you had before. The number of boys will probably remain a bit higher than before, but not 35-40% higher. Maybe 10% higher. Maybe.
With the girls, it will be interesting to see and track those numbers going forward. I think there might be a lot of girls that are getting really caught up right now in the new lowered age and swept away with the momentum of change. I think once the novelty and the euphoria of the change wears off, you'll see the numbers of girls deciding to go lower back down...not completely...but lower than this rush we are seeing right now. Right now it's very much the cool thing to do. There is a certain euphoria that is sweeping through the church and I think that emotion will eventually settle down. Maybe I'll be wrong. I probably will be.Comment
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I agree that the pump was certainly primed to have a bulge in missionary numbers. All of the sisters age 19-20 who are leaving along with the "usual" 21 year-olds. Also, all of the 18 year-old elders who are leaving with the "usual" 19 year-olds.
In the future it will typically be primarily 18 year-old elders and 19 year-old sisters leaving. I also wonder about the wave of emotion that came as a result of the announcement and seeing others jump on the bandwagon to leave. I recently spoke with an ex-mission president who has a friend working at the MTC, and he tells me that there are a number of sisters who are struggling. They jumped in, but now aren't sure that is where they want to be. I think you're going to see that emotions calm down in the future.
The church has contracted with apartment buildings in order to house all of the new missionaries, and has reduced the length of stay at the MTC to accommodate numbers as well. I could see them reaching a point where the apartment contracts are no longer necessary as the MTC capacity is increased and the swell of missionaries moves down the pipeline over the next 12 months.Comment
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In Lengthen your stride some apostles didn't think illegal aliens should be baptized but SWK said baptize them. However church members are repeatedly told to stay in there own lands to strengthen church and not have linguistic and employment challenges.Comment
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"More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)Comment
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Mais, j'ai simplemente copié le titre!Originally posted by Solon View PostPrepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach FinstockComment
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The best missionary to come through my area in the last few years was an illegal alien that had lived in Utah since he was three. He became a citizen a few months before he went home. He was allowed to leave the mission and go up to SLC for the ceremony."I'm going to go back to CUF now, where the censorship is less, the average IQ is higher, and we don't have to deal with so much of this nonsense. Goodbye." - SoonerCougComment
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No, you did not.Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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With respect to the grave-less a, yes, yes I did.Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostNo, you did not.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach FinstockComment
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The issue you have if you want to say that any law breaking is a sin is that you put the power to create commandments in the hands of legislators. Is speeding a sin? Is jaywalking a sin? Most people would say no, but where is the cutoff? Seems like my conservatives want to put the cutoff inbetween speeding and being illegally in a country. There's obviously a gray area, but if someone takes the line that the AoF mean that we sin if we break the law I will think they are a bit crazy.Originally posted by Sullyute View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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"More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)Comment
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I'm more humble.Originally posted by Solon View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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YOhio must've changed the title.Originally posted by Donuthole View Post"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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