Is it doctrine or culture that keeps women from being ordained?
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If it's a humor piece, then I can laugh it off. If it's serious, it's pretty offensive.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post"You know, I was looking at your shirt and your scarf and I was thinking that if you had leaned over, I could have seen everything." ~Trial Ad Judge
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Another essay by Hannah Wheelwright, a BYU student who has written several essays and participated in several panels to discuss the issue. She has a nice way of approaching the topic in a diplomatic fashion. Not to mention that it takes a lot of guts to do what she is doing.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I saw her speak at Sunstone. She is very sincere and impressive.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostAnother essay by Hannah Wheelwright, a BYU student who has written several essays and participated in several panels to discuss the issue. She has a nice way of approaching the topic in a diplomatic fashion. Not to mention that it takes a lot of guts to do what she is doing.
http://www.heraldextra.com/news/opin...087461371.html
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This may or may not fit in this thread, but our YM have the "PH assignment" (yes, the bishop and stake call it that) to take down the chairs in the primary and nursery rooms. Today I went to help and the Primary Presidency had already completed the task as they told me that they don't mind doing it and it only takes 5 minutes. I'm thinking about complaining to the bishop that the women in my ward are usurping the PH responsibilities!"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Particularly for her age. She's maybe 20 and has already been doing this for a year or two.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostI saw her speak at Sunstone. She is very sincere and impressive.At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
-Berry Trammel, 12/3/10
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Yeah, she is gutsy. I hope she doesn't get squashed.Originally posted by ERCougar View PostParticularly for her age. She's maybe 20 and has already been doing this for a year or two.
What is "SEmD"?
From this line:"There's been a great deal of public discussion about female ordination since March of this year with the introduction of the organization called Ordain Women. Many people assert different opinions SEmD women receive the priesthood or priestesshood with their endowment, women hold the priesthood jointly with their husband once sealed, women will never hold the priest(ess)hood at least on this earth, or women have always had the priesthood."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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That was a very good read. My only disagreement was her watered down/over-simplified view of what motherhood is. But I get the point she was making.
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Latter-day Saint Women and the Priesthood of God: A Believer's Exploration
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http://www.amazon.com/Latter-day-Sai...dp/0615995020/The issue of women and the priesthood has been a matter of concern for many Latter-day Saints for years.
This book changes the entire discussion.
In 2012, the never-before-published Nauvoo Relief Society Minute Book was finally made available online. Investigation of this manuscript reveals what almost amount to “lost teachings” of Joseph Smith, including the following:
- Joseph Smith “said he was going to make of this [Relief] Society ‘a kingdom of priests.’”
- Joseph spoke of “delivering the keys” to both the leaders of the Church and to the leaders of Relief Society.
- Joseph said “the keys of the kingdom” were about to be given to sisters “as well as to the Elders.”
- Joseph then said “I now turn the key to you in the name of God.”
This book thoroughly investigates claims that the LDS priesthood is to be restricted to men—and finds no support for such claims. This is a book for both men and women who want to learn what Joseph taught on this issue—and who want to consider possible futures.
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About the Author
Mark Koltko-Rivera converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints while attending Haverford College in Pennsylvania. He served for two years as an LDS missionary in the Japan Okayama Mission. He has served in the Church as a home teacher, a Gospel Doctrine Sunday School teacher, a bishop’s counselor in two wards, and a member of a stake high council. He has published about the Latter-day Saints in Sunstone, Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, and Psychotherapy: Theory, Research, Practice, Training.
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I am guessing that someone will be calling Bro Koltko-Rivera's bishop/SP soon."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Rumor is they already have and he's been called in for a discussion. Unsubstantiated rumor only.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostLatter-day Saint Women and the Priesthood of God: A Believer's Exploration
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http://www.amazon.com/Latter-day-Sai...dp/0615995020/
I am guessing that someone will be calling Bro Koltko-Rivera's bishop/SP soon.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
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This author doesn't really seem to fit the classic ProgMo stereotype...Originally posted by Pheidippides View PostRumor is they already have and he's been called in for a discussion. Unsubstantiated rumor only.
http://www.mormon.org/me/1777
Or is it cool as a ProgMo to create a mormon.org page?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Salt level please.Originally posted by Pheidippides View PostRumor is they already have and he's been called in for a discussion. Unsubstantiated rumor only."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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