Wear Pants to Church Day

[Moliere]

I hear there is a place in France where the women wear no pants. Have I been misled?

I don't know since I couldn't find a hole in the wall.

Our RS President has a standing invitation to PEC every week.

Ours doesn't but she should as should the Primary and YWP. I can't tell you how often we sit in PEC and the bishop makes some remark like "If only sister soandso were here to tell us about ......" I find PEC to be a waste of time. Our WC meetings are very good and productive, but that speaks a lot to the management skills of our bishop.

[Goatnapper'96]

To be honest I had no clue about the purple shirt solidarity stuff so I googled it. To show my support of radical LESBIAN feminists I am so down with the color purple!

[UtahDan]

Sometimes I think your dog is really a cat with the lives it has.

Even though I'm not getting much in the way of Mormonism any more, it's still kind of what I know. Kind of like you and boobs. Zing!

[Goatnapper'96]

Our RS President has a standing invitation to PEC every week.

We don't have PEC every week, but when it was held the RS President was there. However, I will be surprised if any of our womenfolk show up in Sundee best that includes pants.

[Katy Lied]

Wearing pants is kinda dumb, as (1) women already wear pants to church, (2) the Church has said nothing against wearing pants so this social convention is (3) as much if not more the fault of the women, (who dictate the social conventions of church wear for women)

If they really want to stir things up, they should pair bikini tops with modest skirts. Emphasizing their bosoms, which serve to accentuate the body parts which differentiate women from men, who have preferred positions in Church.

Males with moobs are welcome to join in support.

[Goatnapper'96]

Wearing pants is kinda dumb, as (1) women already wear pants to church, (2) the Church has said nothing against wearing pants so this social convention is (3) as much if not more the fault of the women, (who dictate the social conventions of church wear for women)

If they really want to stir things up, they should pair bikini tops with modest skirts. Emphasizing their bosoms, which serve to accentuate the body parts which differentiate women from men, who have preferred positions in Church.

Males with moobs are welcome to join in support.

AYE!

[UtahDan]

That simply isn't true.

You have men in mind, correct?

[YOhio]

If they really want to stir things up, they should pair bikini tops with modest skirts. Emphasizing their bosoms, which serve to accentuate the body parts which differentiate women from men, who have preferred positions in Church.

And no garments underneath!

[Indy Coug]

Yeah, I've never been part of a PEC that has the RS president attend. I've heard of bishops that have her attend, though. Maybe they're all part of Indy's ward!

It's been more than one unit. It's been more than one stake. It's been more than one state.

[UtahDan]

I am not a follower of the women's issues. Enlighten me as to a few of the modest things being proposed or asked for.

I think Joanna Brooks aggregated them at some point. So for example, allowing women to be Sunday School presidents (doesn't seem that calling requires the PH) or ward clerks (you can be the CFO of a Fortune 500 company but not a ward clerk), there may have been some other offices I am forgetting. And then I think the big thing is having women in the various counsels. That doesn't mean they have to have the PH, but simply sitting in the room and giving their opinion at every level. The idea being that whether it is government, or business or science or whatever, we all by know acknowledge that there is huge value in having women be part of not only because there is a unique perspective there but because that is half the talent pool. Again, no need to make it a priesthood issue. Just an issue of having women, however you want to describe it, offering their ideas and counsel.

If I'm being honest I think most women are better off without all that anyway so don't take the above as something I am advocating for. But that is what I had in mind when I was talking about modest proposals.

[pellegrino]

It's not about the priesthood per se. It's about their perception of being unequal in the church (one with which I am sympathetic, in case you couldn't tell).

I openly think women should be given the priesthood and think that the statements and writings of Joseph Smith support that concept. But that's not what they are pushing. Yet.

it all boils down to the priesthood.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I think Joanna Brooks aggregated them at some point. So for example, allowing women to be Sunday School presidents (doesn't seem that calling requires the PH) or ward clerks (you can be the CFO of a Fortune 500 company but not a ward clerk), there may have been some other offices I am forgetting. And then I think the big thing is having women in the various counsels. That doesn't mean they have to have the PH, but simply sitting in the room and giving their opinion at every level. The idea being that whether it is government, or business or science or whatever, we all by know acknowledge that there is huge value in having women be part of not only because there is a unique perspective there but because that is half the talent pool. Again, no need to make it a priesthood issue. Just an issue of having women, however you want to describe it, offering their ideas and counsel.

If I'm being honest I think most women are better off without all that anyway so don't take the above as something I am advocating for. But that is what I had in mind when I was talking about modest proposals.

They are better off without what?

[Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz]

We don't have PEC every week, but when it was held the RS President was there. However, I will be surprised if any of our womenfolk show up in Sundee best that includes pants.

Yes, sorry, every other week. I guess I meant every week PEC is held.

[Surfah]

This. I want to see who the closet promos are so I can befriend them. I doubt any women in my ward will wear pants but I'll return and report.

I like the idea of wearing pants to church. Women are not equally represented in the church. The church used to pay liip service to equality and now it seems we are turning the corner to actually having more equality. I think that's a good thing. I look forward to the day that women are given the PH. I imagine that shortly after that announcement a large group of members will splinter off and form some group in southern Utah that will claim to retain the pure doctrine of the church. That group will wither and die and in 50 years we'll all look back and decide that they were never like us.

Personally I'd love for women to get the priesthood. Then they could have my calling and everything that goes with it. I am sure many could do a much better job than I do anyway.

If the church changes some day in this regard, I wonder how long it will take for those that bitched about inequality to start bitching about their callings like I am. But I know that's not the point and what matters is that everyone can equally bitch.

[pellegrino]

Let me know the next time a women is in PEC or on the High Council. TIA.

there are bishops who include the RS president in PEC, but they are not required to by the handbook. That is the point.