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Sometimes I think your dog is really a cat with the lives it has.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI have no dog in the fight, but it seems like since women don't have anyone to speak on their behalf in any of the counsels of the church where decisions get made that this is all they can do. It may well be that the brethren would readily adopt some of the very modest things some of these women are proposing but no one has had the chance to make the case to them.
Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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No, I admit I'm overstating its pervasiveness, but spotting 2-3 pairs of slacks on the Sabbath is typical. So far as I can tell, no one cares.Originally posted by Applejack View PostIs it really that common in your ward? I have seen various female legged outfits in various wards over the years, but it still is very uncommon, from my vantage point. Also, usually, in my experience, the pants-wearer is a relatively new convert.
But maybe I just need to start paying attention to the new fashions!
I'm still unclear on the objectives of the demonstration. But then I'm still trying to figure out the Occupy thing. Both seem like a means of expressing frustration (often legitimate) over the status quo, without having a specific and feasible end game in mind.
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Can we keep track of who is dismissing who in this thread? Indy dismissing the pants wearers. Jeff dismissing indy etc.."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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No she doesn't. Not in any ward I've been in. Not per the handbook if memory serves.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostThe RS president attends PEC every single week. Then there's this whole Ward Council thing that happens bi-weekly.
Ward Council is a shitshow, mostly because in every one I've been in the women get unintentionally cowed by the patriarchy into shutting up. Part of that is the fault of the women for not standing up. But not all of it - and doubly so when you consider who calls which women.
N=5, ftr.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
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I have nothing against people (men or women) who choose to wear pants/slacks to church. I am questioning the propriety/effectiveness of some grass roots campaign to get women to wear pants (when plenty of women already do just that) and to get men to get in touch with their inner Donny Osmond.Originally posted by DrumNFeather View PostCan we keep track of who is dismissing who in this thread? Indy dismissing the pants wearers. Jeff dismissing indy etc..
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I've been in 4 consecutive units over the last 7 years where the RS president attends PEC. Ward Council can be a shitshow, but that's the fault of the people participating, not the organization itself. In my experience there is a lot of input received from women that is adopted as part of the decision making processes.Originally posted by nikuman View PostNo she doesn't. Not in any ward I've been in. Not per the handbook if memory serves.
Ward Council is a shitshow, mostly because in every one I've been in the women get unintentionally cowed by the patriarchy into shutting up. Part of that is the fault of the women for not standing up. But not all of it - and doubly so when you consider who calls which women.
N=5, ftr.
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Indy has had leadership callings in 4 consecutive units over the last 7 years.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostI've been in 4 consecutive units over the last 7 years where the RS president attends PEC. Ward Council can be a shitshow, but that's the fault of the people participating, not the organization itself. In my experience there is a lot of input received from women that is adopted as part of the decision making processes.
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Either that, or I have inside sources that have revealed unto me the demographic makeups of these clandestine meetingsOriginally posted by YOhio View PostIndy has had leadership callings in 4 consecutive units over the last 7 years.
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I'm curious as to how integrated into the ward this woman was and the responses she got afterward.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostI've seen women wear jeans with tank tops get up and bear their testimony. The church was cold that day, my friends!Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
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I actually was applauding this lady for talking about wearing pants to church. I was happy with the churches response.Originally posted by YOhio View PostOverturning the social convention that dictates women don dresses or skirts to weekly services. It says so in the article.
A good way to get some of this "social" stuff out of the church. In my opinion segregating good members from average members depending on the color of the shirt they wear or how much leg they show is assinine and takes away from the real message of Christ. Didn't he hang out with party goers. I am sure they weren't all dressed in white shirts and proper length skirts.
Remember I am one who is adamantly against BYU being put up as how the standard mormon looks or behaves.
If though as some indicate this isn't about getting rid of stupid "tradition" policies, but aimed more at long held doctrine, I am not applauding.
Let's get rids of the juvenile thinking first, like how one dresses and move onto changing doctrine in the future.
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