Come, Follow Me: New Youth Curriculum.

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  • SCcoug
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 7625

    #46
    Also if we are ditching the PH/RS as well for the curriculum the lessons from SS to PH/RS would have very similar topics. That is probably the most common complain I've heard from the youth curriculum.

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    • kccougar
      9262
      • Nov 2008
      • 7020

      #47
      The youth in my stake really like the Come Follow Me curriculum. They've pretty much all said they enjoy SS and quorum meetings more. I don't see why it wouldn't have the same effect for adults.
      "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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      • Mrs. Funk
        Lawyer Wannabe
        • Nov 2008
        • 2690

        #48
        I taught a year of the new curriculum. The youth curriculum is a big improvement over the older manuals, but not without problems. The material is rather repetitive between SS and YW/YM. It covers the same topic for a whole month in both, with many of the same resources listed for parallel lessons in both.

        I found the YW were often essentially receiving identical lessons two hours in a row and bored to tears. I feel that teachers need to be creative and use the lesson outlines as a jumping off point, but that strictly following them leads to boring and repetitive lessons (although this was certainly true before).

        I'd anticipate the same problems if the program is implemented for adult lessons.
        "You know, I was looking at your shirt and your scarf and I was thinking that if you had leaned over, I could have seen everything." ~Trial Ad Judge

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #49
          Originally posted by Mrs. Funk View Post
          I taught a year of the new curriculum. The youth curriculum is a big improvement over the older manuals, but not without problems. The material is rather repetitive between SS and YW/YM. It covers the same topic for a whole month in both, with many of the same resources listed for parallel lessons in both.

          I found the YW were often essentially receiving identical lessons two hours in a row and bored to tears. I feel that teachers need to be creative and use the lesson outlines as a jumping off point, but that strictly following them leads to boring and repetitive lessons (although this was certainly true before).

          I'd anticipate the same problems if the program is implemented for adult lessons.
          This would give me yet another reason to skip the third hour to go home to watch football/nascar… like I need another reason.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Moliere
            One man.....one pie
            • Oct 2009
            • 27756

            #50
            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
            This is correct. The adults are not yet ready to be taught in the same way the savior taught.
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            New curriculum used by youth now coming to adult classes:



            I don't know enough about the youth curriculum to know if this is a good or bad thing. Thoughts?
            I guess they are now ready

            Originally posted by Mrs. Funk View Post
            I taught a year of the new curriculum. The youth curriculum is a big improvement over the older manuals, but not without problems. The material is rather repetitive between SS and YW/YM. It covers the same topic for a whole month in both, with many of the same resources listed for parallel lessons in both.

            I found the YW were often essentially receiving identical lessons two hours in a row and bored to tears. I feel that teachers need to be creative and use the lesson outlines as a jumping off point, but that strictly following them leads to boring and repetitive lessons (although this was certainly true before).

            I'd anticipate the same problems if the program is implemented for adult lessons.
            This is pretty much correct. I think CFM is a big good step and encourages a bit more uncorrelated lesson/discussion. It's light years better than the old manuals (which still taught against interracial marriage ) but only in the hands of a decent teacher and someone that will prepare. We noticed that our youth aren't really preparing more, but they are simply using the old manuals (which are still available online) and taking full lessons from those manuals when teaching. Kids are smart and lazy. Also, CFM hasn't been the crazy success story that leadership makes it out to be, but it hasn't failed. The church will always struggle in this regards because it uses mostly untrained people to teach lessons.

            For adults I like the idea as I think most GD teachers will prepare better than your typical youth. The new format was probably already followed by most good GD teachers as I imagine they would just skim the material in the lesson manual and then find their own resources or create their own outlines. This format will force the bad GD teachers to try and be better. It opens up the possibility of having a better dialogue in class but also opens up the possibility of the crazy BRM types to spout their stuff as well. In any instance, it'll be interesting to see how this goes.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • Pelado
              Bald not naked
              • Sep 2010
              • 21060

              #51
              Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              I guess they are now ready



              This is pretty much correct. I think CFM is a big good step and encourages a bit more uncorrelated lesson/discussion. It's light years better than the old manuals (which still taught against interracial marriage ) but only in the hands of a decent teacher and someone that will prepare. We noticed that our youth aren't really preparing more, but they are simply using the old manuals (which are still available online) and taking full lessons from those manuals when teaching. Kids are smart and lazy. Also, CFM hasn't been the crazy success story that leadership makes it out to be, but it hasn't failed. The church will always struggle in this regards because it uses mostly untrained people to teach lessons.

              For adults I like the idea as I think most GD teachers will prepare better than your typical youth. The new format was probably already followed by most good GD teachers as I imagine they would just skim the material in the lesson manual and then find their own resources or create their own outlines. This format will force the bad GD teachers to try and be better. It opens up the possibility of having a better dialogue in class but also opens up the possibility of the crazy BRM types to spout their stuff as well. In any instance, it'll be interesting to see how this goes.
              Not sure that I would have qualified as good, but when I taught, I would type out my own outline starting out with first reading the source material, then any other reference materials I intended to use, then the lesson manual last. I figured everyone had already heard what was in the lesson manual every 4th year, so I would try to find something to say they hadn't heard before.

              Of course, I also now have 50+ outlines that can be modified slightly to use as talks.
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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