I didn't see a thread on the new youth curriculum. We're training our youth SS and YM/YW teachers and leaders today. I like that the YM and YW will have the same lessons. I wonder how well it will work in practice.
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I'm glad to see this thread emerge. I just became SS president and I am cautiously optimistic that youth instruction will improve.Originally posted by SCcoug View PostI didn't see a thread on the new youth curriculum. We're training our youth SS and YM/YW teachers and leaders today. I like that the YM and YW will have the same lessons. I wonder how well it will work in practice.Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
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I expect the good teachers to do better with the extra freedom. The mediocre teachers will still be mediocre. I'd liken it to the missionary program's "Teach My Gospel". I've heard quite a few horror stories about incoherent lessons by clueless missionaries. Hopefully there will be less clueless youth teachers.Originally posted by Harry Tic View PostI'm glad to see this thread emerge. I just became SS president and I am cautiously optimistic that youth instruction will improve.
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Now more than ever, bishops are going to have to really evaluate their teachers because those that just wing it most weeks will really be exposed.Originally posted by SCcoug View PostI expect the good teachers to do better with the extra freedom. The mediocre teachers will still be mediocre. I'd liken it to the missionary program's "Teach My Gospel". I've heard quite a few horror stories about incoherent lessons by clueless missionaries. Hopefully there will be less clueless youth teachers."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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The new youth curriculum seems to be of a piece with the Preach My Gospel overhaul of the Missionary curriculum a few years back. You kind of get the sense that the correlation pendulum is finally beginning to swing back a little bit. I attended a training meeting a couple of weeks ago with a member of the Sunday School General Board and it was interesting to hear about their experience putting this together.
BTW, there were some stellar posts on By Common Consent a couple of years ago by Daymon Smith, an LDS anthropologist who did his dissertation on the history and conceptual underpinnings of correlation. I doubt that the pendulum will swing too far, but it should be interesting to see what happens this next year.Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
--William Blake, via Shpongle
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We have discussed the Daymon Smith articles/podcasts/dissertation/etc extensively here. Yes, fascinating stuff. We discuss correlation almost as much as we discuss Riley Nelson. (Ok, maybe not quite that much)Originally posted by Harry Tic View PostThe new youth curriculum seems to be of a piece with the Preach My Gospel overhaul of the Missionary curriculum a few years back. You kind of get the sense that the correlation pendulum is finally beginning to swing back a little bit. I attended a training meeting a couple of weeks ago with a member of the Sunday School General Board and it was interesting to hear about their experience putting this together.
BTW, there were some stellar posts on By Common Consent a couple of years ago by Daymon Smith, an LDS anthropologist who did his dissertation on the history and conceptual underpinnings of correlation. I doubt that the pendulum will swing too far, but it should be interesting to see what happens this next year."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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This is my same impression. Excellent teachers will continue to be excellent, but bad teachers will become a disaster.Originally posted by SCcoug View PostI expect the good teachers to do better with the extra freedom. The mediocre teachers will still be mediocre. I'd liken it to the missionary program's "Teach My Gospel". I've heard quite a few horror stories about incoherent lessons by clueless missionaries. Hopefully there will be less clueless youth teachers.
I've had some missionaries come over and practice teaching in the last few years. Bright, extroverted missionaries were able to teach very well, the not so smooth missionaries really struggled to teach anything that appeared like a discussion and coped very poorly with tangents created by questions.
I don't even think it is dependent on preparation as much as it is the ability to think independently.
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This coming Sunday all non-primary adults and youth in our ward will spend both sunday school and priesthood/relief society in a combined meeting on the new youth manuals. An hour and 40 minutes of training for everyone! I hope that I stay awake.
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Hint: Use the SEARCH feature.Originally posted by SCcoug View PostI didn't see a thread on the new youth curriculum. We're training our youth SS and YM/YW teachers and leaders today. I like that the YM and YW will have the same lessons. I wonder how well it will work in practice.
www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=59607 (171 posts)
www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=62764
www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=59705"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Maybe this post could be repurposed into a "boots on the ground" kind of thing and people could post their impressions/suggestions as they actually see the program in action.Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
--William Blake, via Shpongle
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I'm in the same boat. It is kind of odd when you stop to think about it: we end up calling people to teach the youth who are about as far removed as possible from the world our youth inhabit. I guess there's sort of a value in that, kind of. Maybe. Or not.Originally posted by eldiente View Post3 of 9 youth teachers in my ward don't use the Internet. Going to be a challenge for them to keep upNothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
--William Blake, via Shpongle
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We have a similar training coming up this week. I'm not incredibly excited because I abhor lds conferences that are disguised as trainings, but I had a feeling this might actually be a training meeting.
I'm excited about the new curriculum. It's still very topic based, which is fine, but I like that people have to come up with their own structure or emphasis on which to build a lesson (yes I've looked through it extensively already).
The concern, or better yet the challenge, is that we have our youth teach quite often. They would typically just read and follow the lesson verbatim. They are going to flounder a bit here, which ultimately will be good."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Our stake was the pilot program for this curriculum. We've been doing it for over year. In fact, if you look closely when you watch the videos, you might recognize one of BYU's football players.
It is a fantastic program when implemented correctly. It takes a big commitment by all the teachers, and it takes times for the kids to to understand they are required to do more.
I don't have to time to type much now, but feel free to ask me any questions. I will try and give my usual convoluted, nonsensical replies.
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