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  • #76
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    The good members of Long Beach have been incredibly kind to my daughter on her mission. Nice to know there are some non-jaded folks out there.
    Sounds like she would have been fine in Wuap's neck of the woods as well. It's just here in Happy Valley where the cantankerous saints live that we'd never offer a ride to the missionaries.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      The good members of Long Beach have been incredibly kind to my daughter on her mission. Nice to know there are some non-jaded folks out there.
      As those in Chile have been to my daughter serving there. I am deeply grateful for it, in fact.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        The good members of Long Beach have been incredibly kind to my daughter on her mission. Nice to know there are some non-jaded folks out there.
        You speak from Utah where nothing is asked of you. Cheraw would literally be in another mission from where you live. My ward is about the size of Utah Valley. Other than a villégiature in Provo, I've spent my time in the Church east of the Mississippi, with places where one ward has had between 4-10 missionaries. I've been Ward Mission Leader twice. I do things for missionaries constantly and feed them in my home as often as the mission rules will allow it. When they don't have a car, I'll drive them to the store on P-Day because taking home groceries on your handlebars sucks, and they live about 4 miles from any grocery store, so walking isn't an option. But, when they have a car, asking people to take vacation days, or asking the poor to take a full day off work to drive them to a meeting that could easily be accomplished via Skype or FaceTime is a bit ridiculous, and it irks me to know that the mission president is placing this burden on the membership. So, am I jaded? Fine. I'm jaded. But, you don't get to paint me with a wide brush like you've done.
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • #79
          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
          You speak from Utah where nothing is asked of you. Cheraw would literally be in another mission from where you live. My ward is about the size of Utah Valley. Other than a villégiature in Provo, I've spent my time in the Church east of the Mississippi, with places where one ward has had between 4-10 missionaries. I've been Ward Mission Leader twice. I do things for missionaries constantly and feed them in my home as often as the mission rules will allow it. When they don't have a car, I'll drive them to the store on P-Day because taking home groceries on your handlebars sucks, and they live about 4 miles from any grocery store, so walking isn't an option. But, when they have a car, asking people to take vacation days, or asking the poor to take a full day off work to drive them to a meeting that could easily be accomplished via Skype or FaceTime is a bit ridiculous, and it irks me to know that the mission president is placing this burden on the membership. So, am I jaded? Fine. I'm jaded. But, you don't get to paint me with a wide brush like you've done.
          Quit whining, dangit. Say no if you don't want to help, but stop assuming how others view service that you think is too much of a burden. Or go out and help them.
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            The good members of Long Beach have been incredibly kind to my daughter on her mission. Nice to know there are some non-jaded folks out there.
            Members were great to me on my mission. I'll admit I am jaded about the church in general and have a hard time with missionary work specifically.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
              You speak from Utah where nothing is asked of you. Cheraw would literally be in another mission from where you live. My ward is about the size of Utah Valley. Other than a villégiature in Provo, I've spent my time in the Church east of the Mississippi, with places where one ward has had between 4-10 missionaries. I've been Ward Mission Leader twice. I do things for missionaries constantly and feed them in my home as often as the mission rules will allow it. When they don't have a car, I'll drive them to the store on P-Day because taking home groceries on your handlebars sucks, and they live about 4 miles from any grocery store, so walking isn't an option. But, when they have a car, asking people to take vacation days, or asking the poor to take a full day off work to drive them to a meeting that could easily be accomplished via Skype or FaceTime is a bit ridiculous, and it irks me to know that the mission president is placing this burden on the membership. So, am I jaded? Fine. I'm jaded. But, you don't get to paint me with a wide brush like you've done.
              We had something similar happen in my area. For transfers our ward is expected to come up 2 members once a quarter to spend a whole day driving the missionaries 45 minutes in the wrong direction to pick up missionaries from a different part of our stake, drive 3 more hours to the mission home, wait 2 hours for everyone to show up and have a devotional, and then drive the 3 hours and 45 minutes back home. Transfers are always on a Tuesday.

              I was asked to take a day off to participate in this activity. I asked why the missionaries couldn't drive their own cars and the answer I got back was that they didn't want the liability concerns with driving the mission cars that far. My response was, so they want to shift their liability concerns to me? Uh, no thanks. I don't think member missionary works entails taking on additional liabilities. This is a ridiculous ask of the members.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by TexTechCoug View Post
                It is overused, but I'll say it, millenials.

                I'm guessing most of us have walked up hill both ways type mission stories, but seriously, what's wrong with walking?
                My zone leader's favorite saying at the end of the month when kilometers were in short supply was "anyplace is walking distance, if you have the time".
                Last edited by chrisrenrut; 09-14-2016, 09:57 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  No... teaching them how to do it isn't.

                  We use to do it so we could take all the back roads to door mean dogs for revenge. It was always fun to take the more scenic routes.
                  Back in the day I became very, very good at disconnecting and reconnecting the odometer/speedo cable on a 1980 Chevy Citation. They were held on with a simple C clip and all you had to do was reach up behind the dash, locate the cable and pop it off and then pop it back on at the appropriate time.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                    We had something similar happen in my area. For transfers our ward is expected to come up 2 members once a quarter to spend a whole day driving the missionaries 45 minutes in the wrong direction to pick up missionaries from a different part of our stake, drive 3 more hours to the mission home, wait 2 hours for everyone to show up and have a devotional, and then drive the 3 hours and 45 minutes back home. Transfers are always on a Tuesday.

                    I was asked to take a day off to participate in this activity. I asked why the missionaries couldn't drive their own cars and the answer I got back was that they didn't want the liability concerns with driving the mission cars that far. My response was, so they want to shift their liability concerns to me? Uh, no thanks. I don't think member missionary works entails taking on additional liabilities. This is a ridiculous ask of the members.
                    What liability concerns do you have?
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                      You speak from Utah where nothing is asked of you.
                      This is good to know. I spend about 10 hours every Sunday on my church job and 3-4 hours per day on most weekdays.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        You speak from Utah where nothing is asked of you. . . . you don't get to paint me with a wide brush like you've done.
                        ok.
                        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                          What liability concerns do you have?
                          You obviously haven't seen him drive.
                          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                            What liability concerns do you have?
                            The same one the mission president has?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
                              The same one the mission president has?
                              The MP's concerns are irrelevant. I'm curious what liability concerns Now Japanese Person had that kept him from helping.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                You speak from Utah where nothing is asked of you. Cheraw would literally be in another mission from where you live. My ward is about the size of Utah Valley. Other than a villégiature in Provo, I've spent my time in the Church east of the Mississippi, with places where one ward has had between 4-10 missionaries. I've been Ward Mission Leader twice. I do things for missionaries constantly and feed them in my home as often as the mission rules will allow it. When they don't have a car, I'll drive them to the store on P-Day because taking home groceries on your handlebars sucks, and they live about 4 miles from any grocery store, so walking isn't an option. But, when they have a car, asking people to take vacation days, or asking the poor to take a full day off work to drive them to a meeting that could easily be accomplished via Skype or FaceTime is a bit ridiculous, and it irks me to know that the mission president is placing this burden on the membership. So, am I jaded? Fine. I'm jaded. But, you don't get to paint me with a wide brush like you've done.
                                If you were racist, you would be no different than your cousins bragging about all the good service they have done.
                                *Banned*

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