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The Calling of a Bishop
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ArchieBunkeritis!Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Geez, what a wet blanket.Originally posted by Paperback Writer View PostSome of that is a direct product of correlation and of some Bishops micromanaging. Nothing like investing the time and energy into planning an activity, keeping leadership informed, having a disgruntled parent complain, and then have the Bishop interpret the handbook in an unexpected manner and nix the whole thing. So the next time around, people will ask the Bishop, "Is this OK? How about that?" They want to make their own decisions but feel like they are not allowed to.
I was serving in YM when the youth had an idea for a lip sync activity. The YM/YW leaders approved the songs. However, one YW didn't get her way and complained to her Mom who then went to the Bishop. He decided to review all the songs and determined that only Primary or Disney type songs should be used. Problem is that this happened after the youth had been practicing their lip snyc skits for three weeks and had to start over a week before the live performance. So the next time around, the Bishop is spending his time reading sheets of lyrics. Each quorum/group submitting three differrent songs in case there are objections. Yeah, a Bishop really needs to spend his time doing that but he created the problem.
One of the problems in my old ward was that too many people had access to the church handbook. So when they didn't agree with a decision made by a leader, they would go to the Bishop citing the handbook. Another example, I got busted by another parent for taking an 11-year son on a Deacon's campout. A Dad had pulled out at the last minute because his wife insisted they go out on a date (they still sent their deacon son on the campout). I got a panicked call from the Scoutmaster asking if I could help out and go camping; otherwise, the campout would have to be canceled. My wife was out town with our daughter and our older kids were at EFY. So I was at home with my 11-year old son and he didn't want to be at home alone. The Scoutmaster said it was OK for me to bring my Boy Scout 11-year old son on the campout with me. We packed and had a good time on the campout. Someone complained to the Bishop that an 11-year was brought on a Deacon's campout in violation of the handbook. The Scoutmaster got in trouble for allowing it and I got talked to as well. I asked what I should have done and was told I should have declined or found a place for my son to spend the night (had I been thinking more clearly I would have brought up his several sermons on the evils of sleepovers).
This story should make SoonerCoug proud. He needs to become active again because he might run out of stories someday. Serving as Scoutmaster would change all that rather quickly.
I would have taken my son.
I also would have told them to eat crap, as I was helping them out last minute.
It's the same way I feel like telling my stake president to eat crap for not bringing the sacrament in to the foyer while I sit out there with our whiny 16 month old.Will donate kidney for B12 membership.
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Following an aggressive but eventually unsuccessful campaign to be called as our next Bishop, my uber-orthodox neighbor was called to be SS Pres. He declined on the grounds his PB specifically states he will serve in "high leadership positions". I don't who is more disappointed - him or his wife. What is up with people wanting to be Bishop?
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We have one of those in my ward too.Originally posted by Aversator View PostFollowing an aggressive but eventually unsuccessful campaign to be called as our next Bishop, my uber-orthodox neighbor was called to be SS Pres. He declined on the grounds his PB specifically states he will serve in "high leadership positions". I don't who is more disappointed - him or his wife. What is up with people wanting to be Bishop?
Sometimes I feel like reminding him he's not the bishop.Will donate kidney for B12 membership.
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Excellent.Originally posted by Aversator View PostFollowing an aggressive but eventually unsuccessful campaign to be called as our next Bishop, my uber-orthodox neighbor was called to be SS Pres. He declined on the grounds his PB specifically states he will serve in "high leadership positions". I don't who is more disappointed - him or his wife. What is up with people wanting to be Bishop?I'm like LeBron James.
-mpfunk
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LOL, that is an awesome story.Originally posted by Aversator View PostFollowing an aggressive but eventually unsuccessful campaign to be called as our next Bishop, my uber-orthodox neighbor was called to be SS Pres. He declined on the grounds his PB specifically states he will serve in "high leadership positions". I don't who is more disappointed - him or his wife. What is up with people wanting to be Bishop?
Many are called but few are chosen or something like that.
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It's evolutionary. There is a natural drive to be venerated. There are all kinds of benefits to having a good reputation. If someone is viewed as altruistic by others, then they are also more likely to receive good things (not necessarily material things) in return.Originally posted by Aversator View PostFollowing an aggressive but eventually unsuccessful campaign to be called as our next Bishop, my uber-orthodox neighbor was called to be SS Pres. He declined on the grounds his PB specifically states he will serve in "high leadership positions". I don't who is more disappointed - him or his wife. What is up with people wanting to be Bishop?That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug
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If that is true, which I doubt, that is entirely too funny!Originally posted by Aversator View PostFollowing an aggressive but eventually unsuccessful campaign to be called as our next Bishop, my uber-orthodox neighbor was called to be SS Pres. He declined on the grounds his PB specifically states he will serve in "high leadership positions". I don't who is more disappointed - him or his wife. What is up with people wanting to be Bishop?Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Here's hoping you win! Or at worst...Originally posted by nikuman View PostAuditions are about to start in mine.
"They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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This is an underrated aspect of why so many aspire to the "highest" church callings.Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostIt's evolutionary. There is a natural drive to be venerated. There are all kinds of benefits to having a good reputation. If someone is viewed as altruistic by others, then they are also more likely to receive good things (not necessarily material things) in return.I'm like LeBron James.
-mpfunk
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If by win, you mean not be noticed at all, then I hope so too. I have zero appetite for it right now and would probably say no to so much as an assistant clerk calling.Originally posted by DrumNFeather View PostHere's hoping you win! Or at worst...
Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
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All the hot chicks in HS played hard to get!Originally posted by nikuman View PostIf by win, you mean not be noticed at all, then I hope so too. I have zero appetite for it right now and would probably say no to so much as an assistant clerk calling.
at least for me
Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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