Sons of perdition

[Indy Coug]

You should read it pronto. She is batshit crazy. I went to one of her lectures, and she advocated forced estrogen shots for every male in the US. So that the feminization of men could commence, to ensure true equalization of the sexes.

She wanted to be a communalist, but changed her mind. She wanted to be a lesbian, but rejected it as "patriarchal." She was for the Equal Rights Amendment, but then rejected it. She has ultimately rejected everything she once believed in and supported, including the US Government, States in general, and Roe v. Wade.

I hear that she is personally very likeable, and is often described as "merry." WikiP says that she runs "Casa Feminista, a hotel catering to feminist women." If anyone lives in or travels through New Mexico, and has stayed at Casa Feminista, please describe your experience. I'm curious about it.

Someone needs to invite her to join CUF.

[Jeff Lebowski]

What about me? Can I be a SOP?

You are just one letter off. Hang in there.

[SoonerCoug]

What about me? Can I be a SOP?

You are too insecure in your own status as an atheist.

[Sullyute]

What about me? Can I be a SOP?

You are just one letter off. Hang in there.

I got a good laugh on that one.

[lambdacoug]

You are too insecure in your own status as an atheist.

Because I find humor in labels such as "Son of Perdition"?

Oh well...

[Indy Coug]

What about me? Can I be a SOP?

Only if it feeds into your Martyr Complex.

[lambdacoug]

Only if it feeds into your Martyr Complex.

[Blueintheface]

I saw the Jet's at the Western Idaho State Fair in the mid 80's. Another concert that I'm embarrassed I went to.

I saw them at an American Military base in Rota, Spain. Boom: roasted.

[UtahDan]

You should read it pronto. She is batshit crazy. I went to one of her lectures, and she advocated forced estrogen shots for every male in the US. So that the feminization of men could commence, to ensure true equalization of the sexes.

She wanted to be a communalist, but changed her mind. She wanted to be a lesbian, but rejected it as "patriarchal." She was for the Equal Rights Amendment, but then rejected it. She has ultimately rejected everything she once believed in and supported, including the US Government, States in general, and Roe v. Wade.

I hear that she is personally very likeable, and is often described as "merry." WikiP says that she runs "Casa Feminista, a hotel catering to feminist women." If anyone lives in or travels through New Mexico, and has stayed at Casa Feminista, please describe your experience. I'm curious about it.

I will be interested to. I have heard that it is very good. I have also heard what you describe, which is that in time she became very radical in her ideas. But I believe the writing of this book predates a lot of that. I will give a book report.

[Scorcho]

granted it's from wiki, but still interesting ...

A few LDS Church leaders have speculated whether or not there would be daughters of perdition, as well as sons of perdition. In 1860, LDS Church President Brigham Young stated, "I doubt whether it can be found, from the revelations that are given and the facts as they exist, that there is a female in all the regions of hell."[7] The next year he was even more emphatic: "Woman must atone for sins committed by the volition of her own choice, but she will never become an angel to the devil, and sin so far as to place herself beyond the reach of mercy." [8] In the same discourse he explained his reasoning: "She is not accountable for the sins that are in the world. God requires obedience from man, he is lord of creation, and at his hands the sins of the world will be required."[8] In 1903 another Church President, Joseph F. Smith, also affirmed "that there would be no daughters of perdition."[9]

However, such views are far from universal. After an 1893 meeting of Church President Wilford Woodruff and a group of LDS Church Apostles, they declared, "That there will also be daughters of Perdition there is no doubt in the minds of the brethren".[10] Such conflicting views suggests that this subject has not been settled by a consensus of the LDS Church leadership, nor by a revelation to one of the Church Presidents.

sounds crystal clear

[Scorcho]

also ...

Those who become sons of perdition share the same fate as the devil and his angels. Lucifer has even been called "Perdition" in some LDS books, and those who follow him are known as his "sons" (Mormon Doctrine, p.746). What is this fate? Brigham Young taught that their bodies and spirits would ultimately be dissolved to their original state and that they must then be reorganized to begin life again in another god’s universe (Journal of Discourses 1:118). John Widtsoe clarified the teaching further, explaining that "the ultimate punishment of the sons of perdition may be that they, having their spiritual bodies disorganized, must start over again, must begin anew the long journey of existence, repeating the steps that they took in the eternities before the Great Council was held" (Evidence and Reconciliations, pp. 213-214).

[Goatnapper'96]

also ...

Goatnapper Therum #5 (it could be more but I am pretty damn sure nobody is counting): "when they (the SONS of Perdition) get their do-over experience starting from before the great ones before the worlds were were rapping out scholarly things with God, they will be sent to worlds where there will be no cosmetic implants."

BOOM...ROASTED ED DECKER!

[Scorcho]

Goatnapper Therum #5 (it could be more but I am pretty damn sure nobody is counting): "when they (the SONS of Perdition) get their do-over experience starting from before the great ones before the worlds were were rapping out scholarly things with God, they will be sent to worlds where there will be no cosmetic implants."

BOOM...ROASTED ED DECKER!

this begs the question: in the battle between silicone and the resurrection who wins?

My heart says silicone, but my head says we will be restored to our natural state sans enhancements.

[Sullyute]

also ...

What is this fate? Brigham Young taught that their bodies and spirits would ultimately be dissolved to their original state and that they must then be reorganized to begin life again in another god’s universe (Journal of Discourses 1:118).

So if you are really really good you go to the celestial kingdom to become like God. If you are really really bad, then you go to outerdarkness where you get a mulligan on the whole plan of salvation. While everyone in the middle gets to pet wild animals and serve drinks to those in the CK.

I guess the scriptures were correct when they said:

because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I will spit you out of my mouth

[Goatnapper'96]

this begs the question: in the battle between silicone and the resurrection who wins?

My heart says silicone, but my head says we will be restored to our natural state sans enhancements.

I know what my paradaisical state is!