Temperance movements pre-date Joseph Smith

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  • UtahDan
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    • Nov 2008
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    #16

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    • Joe Public
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      • Apr 2011
      • 8511

      #17
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      The Temperance movement dates back as early as the late-1700s and was very influential in an area where the Smith family lived. So why did Joseph Smith refuse alcohol for the operation on his leg? It could be that he and his family were influenced by the temperance movement.
      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
      On a related note, and Jacob pointed this out, the part of the background behind the WOW that bugs me more than the temperance movement is the hot drinks prohibition (and the anti-hot drinks health fad that was likely responsible for it) It's confusing and vague, it has no scientific basis, and deprives me of one of the great joys of life--the smell of a pot of coffee brewing in the morning.
      To add to the list, Sylvester Graham's diet came into its heyday in the 1830s. Graham was a minister who preached a diet heavy on fresh fruits and vegetables and whole-grain foods and devoid of meat. The diet was supposed to reduce the libido or something.

      Originally posted by grapevine View Post
      Emma was urinated that people were smoking in school of the prophets so Joseph went to the Lord and got Wow. I am sure there were people against drinking then. For tobacoo did anyonne know it was dangerous before the middle of the 20th century? Or coffee for that matter.
      Coffee is dangerous?
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      • Sullyute
        a day late/a dollar short
        • Jul 2010
        • 3308

        #18
        Originally posted by grapevine View Post
        Emma was urinated that people were smoking in school of the prophets so Joseph went to the Lord and got Wow. I am sure there were people against drinking then. For tobacoo did anyonne know it was dangerous before the middle of the 20th century? Or coffee for that matter.
        I never learned that in seminary?!
        "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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        • BigPiney
          Huge Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12346

          #19
          I enjoyed the stories of the temperance movement in The Pickwick Papers, though that really was a small part of it. This would have been contemporary to the word of wisdom.

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          • Pheidippides
            Liberal Feminazi
            • Nov 2008
            • 14759

            #20
            Originally posted by Joe Public View Post
            To add to the list, Sylvester Graham's diet came into its heyday in the 1830s. Graham was a minister who preached a diet heavy on fresh fruits and vegetables and whole-grain foods and devoid of meat. The diet was supposed to reduce the libido or something.
            Must be the or something. I follow that kind of diet and have suffered no ill effects to my libido. An increase if anything.

            He did bring us graham flour and, by extension, graham crackers, so there's that.
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            • SoCalCoug
              Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
              • Nov 2008
              • 5214

              #21
              Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
              The Temperance movement dates back as early as the late-1700s and was very influential in an area where the Smith family lived. So why did Joseph Smith refuse alcohol for the operation on his leg? It could be that he and his family were influenced by the temperance movement.

              Temperance movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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              • Indy Coug
                Heartless Bastard
                • Dec 2008
                • 18747

                #22
                Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                So they weren't into sharing their liquor? Selfish bastards.
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                • San Juan Sun
                  Kicked to the curb
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9214

                  #23
                  Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                  Seems that only alcohol could convince a man's lip to kiss those women. Yikes.
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                  • UtahDan
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                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14496

                    #24
                    Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                    Seems that only alcohol could convince a man's lip to kiss those women. Yikes.
                    You're just put off by the hats. There are some real honeys in that group!

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                    • smokymountainrain
                      Impressive Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 22593

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Joe Public View Post
                      To add to the list, Sylvester Graham's diet came into its heyday in the 1830s. Graham was a minister who preached a diet heavy on fresh fruits and vegetables and whole-grain foods and devoid of meat. The diet was supposed to reduce the libido or something.



                      Coffee is dangerous?
                      You've obviously never spilled a hot cup on your lap. Let me tell you, yes coffee can be dangerous.
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                      • SoCalCoug
                        Ragnar Lodbrok Descendant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 5214

                        #26
                        Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                        Seems that only alcohol could convince a man's lip to kiss those women. Yikes.
                        Yeah, they're not doing themselves any favors.
                        If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

                        "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

                        "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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                        • Indy Coug
                          Heartless Bastard
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 18747

                          #27
                          Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                          You've obviously never spilled a hot cup on your lap. Let me tell you, yes coffee can be dangerous.
                          And if it happens in a McDonald's drive-thru, very lucrative.
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