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  • #16
    Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post

    You had me at "baklava". Do people have legal protecton from recrimination for leaving Islam in Turkey? Does Sunia law prevail? Being put to death for leaving Islam would be a conversion killer (pun intended).

    Or are they just subjected to a good 'ol Mormon shunning.
    You mean Sharia Law. I do not know anything about the prevalence of 'honor killings' in Turkey, but I do know the country is far more 'western' than nearly all of the other predominantly Muslim countries. I know they historically and openly allow numerous Christian sects, etc.

    Many Christian churches essentially were founded in Turkey (eg Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, etc in Antioch). Niceae was extremely important to Christianity (First Council of Nicaea gave us the Nicene Creed, etc).

    Most of the important Christian churches were later converted to mosques (Hagia Sophia, etc).

    That is the extent of my knowledge of the Christian churches in the area...

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    • #17
      Turkey is great and NWU is correct about the baklava. It's like heaven.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
        That's nobody's business but the Turks.
        Excellent.

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        • #19
          What a great experience for those missionaries. Istanbul is amazing.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
            I bet the rebel missionaries call it Constantinople.
            Those are the wannabes. The real rebels call it Byzantium.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Viking View Post
              Seems like an odd decision to send Bulgarian-speaking missionaries into Turkey on the basis of geographic proximity. Didn't the Church do that with Finnish missionaries into Russia? I guess there's no one else to send in so why not have the most proximate kids go, right?
              I've seen this happen a few times. They did it with Hungary when they first opened it - it was called the "Austria, Vienna East" mission for about two years (my bro was in Vienna and went over w/ the new missionaries when they first started going to Hungary).

              Then when I was in Hungary several years later Serbia was made a part of our mission - right at the height of the Balkan conflict. We had 18 missionaries in our mission who were kind of going back and forth until the Church finally pulled them permanently.
              Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī

              It can't all be wedding cake.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                I've seen this happen a few times. They did it with Hungary when they first opened it - it was called the "Austria, Vienna East" mission for about two years (my bro was in Vienna and went over w/ the new missionaries when they first started going to Hungary).

                Then when I was in Hungary several years later Serbia was made a part of our mission - right at the height of the Balkan conflict. We had 18 missionaries in our mission who were kind of going back and forth until the Church finally pulled them permanently.
                Was your brother's mission president Dennis Neuenschwander? His son was one of my teachers in the MTC.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                  I've seen this happen a few times. They did it with Hungary when they first opened it - it was called the "Austria, Vienna East" mission for about two years (my bro was in Vienna and went over w/ the new missionaries when they first started going to Hungary).

                  Then when I was in Hungary several years later Serbia was made a part of our mission - right at the height of the Balkan conflict. We had 18 missionaries in our mission who were kind of going back and forth until the Church finally pulled them permanently.
                  it's a very small world. i'm pretty sure you served your mission with a family member
                  Last edited by Viking; 02-03-2012, 01:19 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                    I've seen this happen a few times. They did it with Hungary when they first opened it - it was called the "Austria, Vienna East" mission for about two years (my bro was in Vienna and went over w/ the new missionaries when they first started going to Hungary).

                    Then when I was in Hungary several years later Serbia was made a part of our mission - right at the height of the Balkan conflict. We had 18 missionaries in our mission who were kind of going back and forth until the Church finally pulled them permanently.
                    the pattern was established long ago. Just about every new nation has been opened this way since WWII.
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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                    • #25
                      I'm guessing that the rules for proselyting there will be byzantine.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        I'm guessing that the rules for proselyting there will be byzantine.
                        that's better than any of the thanksgiving jokes I was working on.
                        Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                        God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                        Alessandro Manzoni

                        Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                        pelagius

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post

                          You had me at "baklava". Do people have legal protecton from recrimination for leaving Islam in Turkey? Does Sunia law prevail? Being put to death for leaving Islam would be a conversion killer (pun intended).

                          Or are they just subjected to a good 'ol Mormon shunning.
                          Not at all. My wife's Aunt married a Turk and they live in Ankara. She loves it there. Turkey is a secular republic and is nothing like the majority of the Islamic countries of the Middle East. While you see some çarşafs (Turkish Burqas) worn, only about 1% of the women actually wear them.
                          Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                          • #28
                            I thought Arabs couldn't be baptized because of the whole "not their time because of first to last to last to first" thing.

                            There was sister companionship in my mission (18 years ago) that was denied baptizing a Arab due to this rule. Did they open proselyting to not just gentiles?
                            "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                            "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                              One of my son's best friends has been serving in Bulgaria and called his parents Sunday to let them know he was headed to Turkey to serve there. He's a good kid and smart so he should do well there.
                              Originally posted by Viking View Post
                              Seems like an odd decision to send Bulgarian-speaking missionaries into Turkey on the basis of geographic proximity. Didn't the Church do that with Finnish missionaries into Russia? I guess there's no one else to send in so why not have the most proximate kids go, right?
                              For people of a certain age, talk of sending missionaries from Bulgaria to open Turkey is just plain crazy and unimaginable.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                                For people of a certain age, talk of sending missionaries from Bulgaria to open Turkey is just plain crazy and unimaginable.
                                Come on man, everyone knows Turkey isn't a country!

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