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    A Mormon church in need of reform

    Reads like one of those letters on exmo.com.

    After the fairly comprehensive, yet standard, list of problematic issues, she ends with a call for reform. She even namedrops Tal Bachman. :yikes:

    It sounds like she wants to part of a relgion that will accomodate her non-belief. Someone should direct her to JDehlin's little band.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

  • #2
    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    A Mormon church in need of reform

    Reads like one of those letters on exmo.com.

    After the fairly comprehensive, yet standard, list of problematic issues, she ends with a call for reform. She even namedrops Tal Bachman. :yikes:

    It sounds like she wants to part of a relgion that will accomodate her non-belief. Someone should direct her to JDehlin's little band.
    she's probably already found it.
    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
    Alessandro Manzoni

    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

    pelagius

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    • #3
      Ugh...

      Yeah, if Steve Benson and Tal Bachman are her heros, it is not surprising that she cranked out such a shallow, hyperbolic rant.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
        she's probably already found it.
        Then I don't get what she wants. She's opted out, which should provide relief from all of her cognitive dissonance. She's got real famous people that feel the same way she does. There are places she can go to practice her non-belief.

        What else is there?

        It's the funeral potatoes. She really misses the funeral potatoes.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Ugh...

          Yeah, if Steve Benson and Tal Bachman are her heros, it is not surprising that she cranked out such a shallow, hyperbolic rant.
          no kidding.
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • #6
            I'm in no way implying that this is the case all or even much of the time, but some people who leave the Church are shunned by friends and family because they are self-important, condescending ass-holes, not because they apostisized.
            "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
            "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
            "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
              I'm in no way implying that this is the case all or even much of the time, but some people who leave the Church are shunned by friends and family because they are self-important, condescending ass-holes, not because they apostisized.
              ding ding ding
              Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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              • #8
                Former Mormons know the family estrangement and bigotry that often come with questioning or leaving the church.
                Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                It sounds like she wants to part of a relgion that will accomodate her non-belief. Someone should direct her to JDehlin's little band.
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                it is not surprising that she cranked out such a shallow, hyperbolic rant.
                Originally posted by creekster View Post
                no kidding.
                Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
                but some people who leave the Church are shunned by friends and family because they are self-important, condescending ass-holes, not because they apostisized.
                Originally posted by camleish View Post
                ding ding ding
                Thank goodness you fellas are here to put the lie to all this nonsense!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                  Thank goodness you fellas are here to put the lie to all this nonsense!


                  I expressed a desire that she find a place more accomodating of her non-belief, and even suggested one option. If she were my mother, sister, daughter, niece, cousin, friend, or any other relation, I would not shun her. But she's shouldn't be immune to a some critism in return.
                  Last edited by myboynoah; 01-29-2012, 11:08 PM.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                    Thank goodness you fellas are here to put the lie to all this nonsense!
                    Just because her slanted, broad brushed opinion drew criticism doesn't mean she's being ostracized, or that her critics are bigots. Some people who think the Church should be more open to criticism can get a little testy when the same criticism is turned back on their opinions.
                    "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
                    "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
                    "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                      Thank goodness you fellas are here to put the lie to all this nonsense!
                      Ah geez. You can't be serious.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                        Thank goodness you fellas are here to put the lie to all this nonsense!
                        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                        • #13
                          I can just imagine the encounter between Ms. Carrie Sheffield and President Monson, Tom:

                          Carrie Sheffield notices Prez-Mo-T picking up a couple of lollypops in a small convenience store. She charges up to him and begins to passionately present her ideas for improving the church. As she presents her view, Prez-Mo-T unwraps a lollypop, drops the wrapper on the floor, and steps up to Ms. Sheffield just as she finishes saying, "And that is how I think the church could become a much friendlier place to women, gay people, and the many people who want to partake of our communal spirit, even if they can't bring themselves to believe everything the church claims as doctrine."

                          Prez-Mo-T: You want it to be one way.
                          Ms. Sheffield: What?
                          Prez-Mo-T: You want it to be one way.
                          Ms. Shefield: I don't follow what you are saying.
                          Prez-Mo-T: You want it to be one way.
                          (Ms. Shefield now looking very nervous)
                          Ms. Shefield: Why do you keep saying that?
                          Prez-Mo-T: But it's the other way.
                          (Prez-Mo-T looks to the cashier, holds up the two lollipops and says, "Take it out of your tithing." He pops the unwrapped lollipop into his mouth and walks out the door.)

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                          • #14
                            Poorly written. Tal Bachman?? Come on!

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                            • #15
                              Sunlight will be good for the Church.
                              We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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