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  • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
    I really get sick of that number that the anti's throw out which is a small portion of the total payout the church gives. It's what the church gives in humanitarian aid. It excludes everything the church gives out through welfare and its normal fast offering distribution process (which primarily goes to inactive members who do not pay tithing and secondarily to active members who do pay tithing and non-members). This figure is probably 10 times the humanitarian aid number.
    I am not arguing your numbers, but can you please provide some proof of the bolded statement above. I have never seen a distinction between welfare and humanitarian aid and wanted to see if I missed something. TIA
    "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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    • Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
      I am not arguing your numbers, but can you please provide some proof of the bolded statement above. I have never seen a distinction between welfare and humanitarian aid and wanted to see if I missed something. TIA
      This was brought out in a thread where this was discussed ad nauseum.

      Obviously I don't have the exact numbers. But I think these are reasonable ratios.

      Fast offerings ~10% of tithing
      Humanitarian aid ~.5% - .8% of tithing

      Humanitarian aid is a special category, obviously a subset of what could be considered the church's "giving to the poor".

      The humanitarian aid figure got published somewhere, and anti's have been going nuts with it making statements like "LDS gave less than 1% of its income to the poor."

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      • I'm pretty blown away with how big this thread became.

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        • I don't use the newordermormon site; I am more of a fan of FLAK-Further Light and Knowledge. I just keep finding myself at the site again and again because of the anger I find against the members of the Church. I don't have an issue with paying tithing. I can see how others would, though.

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          • Originally posted by jlwalden View Post
            I don't use the newordermormon site; I am more of a fan of FLAK-Further Light and Knowledge. I just keep finding myself at the site again and again because of the anger I find against the members of the Church. I don't have an issue with paying tithing. I can see how others would, though.
            Serinity now.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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