What a great story, Brother TD. Makes me want to be a better neighbor. My prayers go out for yours. By the way, I love Indian people, food, and culture. I have a lot of Indian colleagues whom I enjoy and treasure.
A very moving experience this evening
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“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Thanks, LAUte.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostWhat a great story, Brother TD. Makes me want to be a better neighbor. My prayers go out for yours. By the way, I love Indian people, food, and culture. I have a lot of Indian colleagues whom I enjoy and treasure.
She called my wife yesterday and asked her to come over to chat. My wife wound up staying there for over 2 hours.
Right now, they are really in a bad spot. She expressed to my wife feelings of conflicted faith, resentment towards God, fear of telling her family back in India, etc. She also feels like life is pointless right now. Fortunately, she also expressed perspective...that all of this will pass and that eventually they will have children.
For now, they have decided to give it a rest and not focus so much on trying to get pregnant. She goes back to work on Monday and looks forward to getting her mind off things, at least for part of the day.
In typical fashion, she sent my wife home with rice and spicy curried meat. My wife went over to help her, and she sends us home with a meal. Amazing neighbors.
After spending 2 hours in their home, my wife came home and reeked of curry. She said that she was going to take a shower. I kinda raised my eyebrows a few times and offered to "help out" in that department. She said no thanks and went upstairs to shower. I guess I misread that situation. I will think twice about romance the next time my wife spends 2 hours comforting a good friend about her lack of faith in God and her anger over not being able to conceive children.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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What is wrong with being called an "insufferable asshole".Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostHeck, I don't even know if nikuman was serious when he called me an "insufferable asshole". I want to say that he knows that I know that he knows that they know that we know that I know that he knows that you know that we all know that everything here is just a joke, but I don't really know if that's the case or not.
Hence, going forward I will take the stance that everything posted here is deadly serious and to question the veracity of said statement is just a little further down the spectrum of mortal sins than getting a belated health code violation on a humble Johnstown lemonade stand.
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I just try to keep tabs on who is friend and foe. Not that I expect everyone to be friend, but it helps to know my audience when speaking.Originally posted by byu71 View PostWhat is wrong with being called an "insufferable asshole".
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Indy, I know insufferable a-holes. Insufferable a-holes are friends of mine. Indy, you're no insufferable a-hole.Originally posted by byu71 View PostWhat is wrong with being called an "insufferable asshole".“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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LOL! I'm not quite sure how to take that little nugget.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostIndy, I know insufferable a-holes. Insufferable a-holes are friends of mine. Indy, you're no insufferable a-hole.
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It would be a mistake to try to take it very seriously at all . . . but it was offered with tongue in cheek and hand extended (and all four fingers extended as well).Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostLOL! I'm not quite sure how to take that little nugget.Last edited by LA Ute; 04-03-2009, 10:26 AM.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Selection of sex is an add on to IVF. I can't remember what it costs. It doesn't increase the chances of multiples over regular IVF.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostBTW, how much does it cost to ensure that your baby is one gender or the other? My wife restated to me that her limit is three kids, so if we have another girl next time, I want to make sure we have a boy the third time. Also, does the procedure raise the risk of twins/triplets?
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TD, anything new to report?"I'm going to go back to CUF now, where the censorship is less, the average IQ is higher, and we don't have to deal with so much of this nonsense. Goodbye." - SoonerCoug
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Thanks for the inquiry. I posted an update (found on page 3), but in sum, they were not successful. It was a very rough weekend for them and it weighed heavily on my wife and I during conference. Sad news and disappointing.Originally posted by The Fourth Nephite View PostTD, anything new to report?
One cool bit of follow-up since two weeks ago.....on Saturday, Wife came over to our house and asked to accompany us to Easter services. She said she wanted to go and experience a Christian Easter celebration.
It was a great day. Easter Sunday, some very nice talks about the Savior, everyone belted out "He is Risen" and "Christ the Lord is Risen Today." She spent a chunk of the time asking questions and we did our best to answer ("where are the crosses/statues?," "are your leaders allowed to marry?," "can anyone get up and speak?" etc).
Based off conversations she has had with my wife, she and her husband have decided to just forget about it as best they can for now and not even formally "try" for kids. Just live their life for the rest of the year and maybe take it up again in the new year.
They also brought over a very lovely flower centerpiece and my wife took it with her and used it for RS meeting. They are really great neighbors.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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3D, you'd better not convert them. They are vulnerable and trusting. I'd be disappointed.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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My biggest fear if they were to convert to the LDS religion is that the Relief Society would get in there and start teaching her to cook with all kinds of creamy soups and corn flakes and crap like that. I enjoy my pipeline of authentic Indian food. I won't do anything to disturb that weekly fix.Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post3D, you'd better not convert them. They are vulnerable and trusting. I'd be disappointed.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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I think it is very common to take breaks in between failures when trying to have kids. It seems to make family members (parents etc.) irritated because they can't understand the emotional trauma and exhaustion of hope following what appears to be godly rejection of you as a person. Regardless, it is good to take breaks. We had a natural conception during one such break.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostBased off conversations she has had with my wife, she and her husband have decided to just forget about it as best they can for now and not even formally "try" for kids. Just live their life for the rest of the year and maybe take it up again in the new year.
They also brought over a very lovely flower centerpiece and my wife took it with her and used it for RS meeting. They are really great neighbors.
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Then again, the possibility of Indian-influenced funeral potatoes is kind of intriguing.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostMy biggest fear if they were to convert to the LDS religion is that the Relief Society would get in there and start teaching her to cook with all kinds of creamy soups and corn flakes and crap like that. I enjoy my pipeline of authentic Indian food. I won't do anything to disturb that weekly fix.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Yes, but then someone would have to die first.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostThen again, the possibility of Indian-influenced funeral potatoes is kind of intriguing.
If you want to quench your bloodlust, why not eat some blowfish? Why project onto my neighbors?Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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