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Mormonism as a paragon of progressivism
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I'm pretty sure your kids will be OK.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
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I still don't understand the intent of the original post. The thread jacks make more sense than that it does.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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One of the most consistent themes I have noticed from believing mormons is the need for all things to have God's mutual approbation. Perhaps it is believing people everywhere but my anecdotal experience is very much focused in the mormon sphere. Regardless it is something that really caught my interest when I discovered the interwebs. Not growing up in Utah I was not really aware of the intricacies of the Utah-BYU rivalry. As soon as I started participating in these venues I began to notice the need of mormons to really convince themselves that even the sports teams they support they do so out of a nobler desire to build the Kingdom of God. Many BYU fans believed every mormon has an obligation to love and support the BYU and then I noticed many believing mormon Ute fans felt that because Byron Rex flipped off Hawaii in 1990, the Kingdom was better served if BYU sports went away and thusly they were Ute fans. It seemed that not many mormons were sports fans because of the reason most people are sports fans...uh I went to school there or because supporting this team was a family tradition. No, to many the stakes were higher and God really cares what team one supports.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostI can't stand comments like this (from the article):
Good hell, what is loving and compassionate about saddling our kids and grandkids with incredible amounts of debt for ever-expanding government programs? That just seems selfish and wrong to me.
It seems to me that many mormons do the same with their political beliefs. The latch onto some interpretation of a political platform and then conflate that with their interpretation of LDS theology that reinforces their need to be a member of the only true and living political party or to have their political beliefs be lined up with their religious beliefs.
I, of myself, am too sophisticated to allow this to happen. As an educated man I disassociate myself from these petty causes and only comment from my soapbox when I look down upon others! But I still think Reid was an asshole, as was the other fellow, when they said Romney sullied their religion. I have no issues with Reid playing all the political hardball he wants with his fairytales and imaginations of conversations with Unicorns and whatnot, but I think we should all leave others religious devotions aside. While I will mock those who have the need to believe their sports and political devotions are aligned with God's will, I still believe they are very earnest and genuine in their sophmoric perspectives.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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mainly because we were the first Western religion to sanction swinging.Originally posted by ERCougar View PostBack to the OP...
Yes, Mormonism was a progressive religion 150 years ago.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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Now you're just being mean. That's worse than Cardiac trying to play lawyer.Originally posted by pellegrino View PostI still don't understand the intent of the original post. The thread jacks make more sense than that it does.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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It's so altruistic of rich people to be concerned about future generations being saddled with the national debt. I'm sure they wish they could pay more taxes so that it wouldn't be such a big problem.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
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Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostIt's so altruistic of rich people to be concerned about future generations being saddled with the national debt. I'm sure they wish they could pay more taxes so that it wouldn't be such a big problem.
It's equally altruistic and Christlike to give other peoples money to the poor.
Caricatures are fun!At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
-Berry Trammel, 12/3/10
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More taxes and more government helps perpetuate an economic death spiral that hurts the poor and uneducated more than it hurts the wealthy and educated. There is a sweet spot for taxation and regulation and I don't think we need more of either to move into that sweet spot.Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostIt's so altruistic of rich people to be concerned about future generations being saddled with the national debt. I'm sure they wish they could pay more taxes so that it wouldn't be such a big problem.
You liberals are batshit crazy if you think Mitt Romney and like-minded wealthy conservatives want to lower taxes so that they themselves can keep more of their money. Hell if Romney really cared about maximizing his personal wealthy he would have kept working at Bain and sure as hell wouldn't have left to run the Olympics and then entered politics.
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I'm not being mean, maybe a little snarky, but honestly I couldn't understand what exactly it is that you were trying to say.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostNow you're just being mean. That's worse than Cardiac trying to play lawyer.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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Now it can be told, a year later: I was just messing around. Then again, I had forgotten about this thread so I can't be sure what I meant.Originally posted by pellegrino View PostI'm not being mean, maybe a little snarky, but honestly I couldn't understand what exactly it is that you were trying to say.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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