Great Apostates

[SeattleUte]

These are some of my favorite apostates in history (in no particular order):

The historical Jesus

Paul of Tarsus

Dostoevky

Tolstoy

The Founding Fathers of the United States

Spinoza

David Hume

Adam Smith

Joseph Smith

Nietzche

For starters.

EDIT: add Darwin. Jinx woot.

[creekster]

Was Darwin an apostate? I am not sure he considered himself such.

[Borderline Divine]

No Martin Luther?

[Borg]

SeattleUte?

[SeattleUte]

No Martin Luther?

I am not a big fan of his. (You notice I didn't put down Marx or Engles either.) He unintentionally hastened great things, by breaking the "Catholic" hammerlock on Europe (I put Clatholic in quotes beacuse the term really didn't mean much until Luther). But he was an enemy of the Renaissance, generally wanted to take us back to medieval times. His religious progeny including Mormons like to cherry pick indulgences as what motivated him. But that was a small part of it. He opposed the return to Classical tastes and ethos that Christianity was taking, and, of course, was a forerunner of the Enlightenment.

In some ways Henry VIII > Luther.

[SeattleUte]

SeattleUte?

If I ever get hornswoggled into a sacrament meeting talk again my subject will be Great Apostates and their importance to human progress.

[old_gregg]

If I ever get hornswoggled into a sacrament meeting talk again my subject will be Great Apostates and their importance to human progress.

congratulations on taking cuf's usage-of-hornswoggled-virginity. it was only a matter of time.

[Guest]

Malcolm X

[FN Phat]

I am not a big fan of his. (You notice I didn't put down Marx or Engles either.) He unintentionally hastened great things, by breaking the "Catholic" hammerlock on Europe (I put Clatholic in quotes beacuse the term really didn't mean much until Luther). But he was an enemy of the Renaissance, generally wanted to take us back to medieval times. His religious progeny including Mormons like to cherry pick indulgences as what motivated him. But that was a small part of it. He opposed the return to Classical tastes and ethos that Christianity was taking, and, of course, was a forerunner of the Enlightenment.

In some ways Henry VIII > Luther.

creekster?

[FN Phat]

Barack Obama

[Guest]

Wesley Snipes

[creekster]

I am not a big fan of his. (You notice I didn't put down Marx or Engles either.) He unintentionally hastened great things, by breaking the "Catholic" hammerlock on Europe (I put Clatholic in quotes beacuse the term really didn't mean much until Luther). But he was an enemy of the Renaissance, generally wanted to take us back to medieval times. His religious progeny including Mormons like to cherry pick indulgences as what motivated him. But that was a small part of it. He opposed the return to Classical tastes and ethos that Christianity was taking, and, of course, was a forerunner of the Enlightenment.

In some ways Henry VIII > Luther.

So by great you mean "ones I like"? Luther was a pretty unpleasant guy, but as apostates go he was pretty important.

[creekster]

creekster?

Hmmmm. Not sure how to take this .. .

[SeattleUte]

So by great you mean "ones I like"? Luther was a pretty unpleasant guy, but as apostates go he was pretty important.

True. Two more like that:

Constantine the Great

Clovis

[RC Vikings]

Merlin Olsen, Harmon Killebrew, Katherine Heigl and Jewel are just some that come to mind.