Did Jesus Commit Suicide?

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  • Commando
    Explosivo
    • Feb 2009
    • 20748

    #31
    Originally posted by Solon View Post
    Why are you answering my question with a question?
    Just in hopes of avoiding a pointless, laborious discussion, but here goes:



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    • Solon
      Lost in the flood
      • Nov 2008
      • 5747

      #32
      thanks for the links. The quote:
      "Obviously, we do not know the full circumstances surrounding every suicide. Only the Lord knows all the details, and he it is who will judge our actions here on earth.
      leads me to believe that the church has no official policy on the matter. The topical guide's links are a bit of a diversion as well, since murder is obviously different to some degree from suicide.

      I find this LDS lack of policy/doctrine/direct statement interesting. Compare, for instance, the official positions of the Catholic church, which distinguish between positive and negative, direct and indirect suicide.

      I think that certain practices to excommunicate LDS suicide survivors is a vestige of this well-entrenched Christian dogma. Kudos to the LDS church for seemingly stepping back from this practice.
      "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
      -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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      • Commando
        Explosivo
        • Feb 2009
        • 20748

        #33
        All I know is that spiritually I'd be more scared of killing myself than committing adultery.
        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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        • beelzebabette
          Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
          • Nov 2008
          • 2907

          #34
          Originally posted by Commando View Post
          All I know is that spiritually I'd be more scared of killing myself than committing adultery.
          Because you are apparently largely in possession of all your faculties.

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          • Surfah
            Where's Wallace?
            • Nov 2008
            • 33726

            #35
            Originally posted by Solon View Post
            LOL. I love m*a*s*h.
            Me too. Growing up my dad used to let me stay up and watch m*a*s*h at 11pm followed by a re-run of Cheers. I used to use it as an excuse to stay up late but then I started getting into it. My dad is a big fan. When it's run ended they had a big m*a*s*h party on the North Shore of Hawaii that we went to that I vaguely remember.
            "Nobody listens to Turtle."
            -Turtle
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            • Indy Coug
              Heartless Bastard
              • Dec 2008
              • 18747

              #36
              Originally posted by Solon View Post
              I think that certain practices to excommunicate LDS suicide survivors is a vestige of this well-entrenched Christian dogma. Kudos to the LDS church for seemingly stepping back from this practice.
              I'm not sure your anecdotal account of one person's excommunication indicates this was a church-wide practice in the past. Local church disciplinary actions hardly set "legal" precedence and aren't always necessarily in line with church policy or doctrine, assuming they even had an explicit policy on this 30 years ago to begin with.
              Everything in life is an approximation.

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              • Solon
                Lost in the flood
                • Nov 2008
                • 5747

                #37
                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                I'm not sure your anecdotal account of one person's excommunication indicates this was a church-wide practice in the past. Local church disciplinary actions hardly set "legal" precedence and aren't always necessarily in line with church policy or doctrine, assuming they even had an explicit policy on this 30 years ago to begin with.
                You're right. That's a good point. At any rate, today's culture seems to be more understanding of mental duress and illness.
                "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                • Babs
                  Not a Lawyer
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17128

                  #38
                  Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                  Because you are largely in possession of all your faculties.
                  Let's not get carried away.

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Solon View Post
                    It's not a sin to go commando, unless your zipper breaks.

                    The Schwarzenegger movie Commando, on the other hand, was a sin.
                    /enthusiastic golf clap. "Bravo, sir. Bravo."
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • beelzebabette
                      Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2907

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Babs View Post
                      Let's not get carried away.
                      Hey. Don't go deleting my "apparently" qualifier just to make your point.

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