Originally posted by Solon
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Did Jesus Commit Suicide?
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thanks for the links. The quote:Originally posted by Commando View PostJust in hopes of avoiding a pointless, laborious discussion, but here goes:
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.js...00176f620a____leads me to believe that the church has no official policy on the matter. The topical guide's links are a bit of a diversion as well, since murder is obviously different to some degree from suicide."Obviously, we do not know the full circumstances surrounding every suicide. Only the Lord knows all the details, and he it is who will judge our actions here on earth.
I find this LDS lack of policy/doctrine/direct statement interesting. Compare, for instance, the official positions of the Catholic church, which distinguish between positive and negative, direct and indirect suicide.
I think that certain practices to excommunicate LDS suicide survivors is a vestige of this well-entrenched Christian dogma. Kudos to the LDS church for seemingly stepping back from this practice."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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Me too. Growing up my dad used to let me stay up and watch m*a*s*h at 11pm followed by a re-run of Cheers. I used to use it as an excuse to stay up late but then I started getting into it. My dad is a big fan. When it's run ended they had a big m*a*s*h party on the North Shore of Hawaii that we went to that I vaguely remember.Originally posted by Solon View PostLOL. I love m*a*s*h."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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I'm not sure your anecdotal account of one person's excommunication indicates this was a church-wide practice in the past. Local church disciplinary actions hardly set "legal" precedence and aren't always necessarily in line with church policy or doctrine, assuming they even had an explicit policy on this 30 years ago to begin with.Originally posted by Solon View PostI think that certain practices to excommunicate LDS suicide survivors is a vestige of this well-entrenched Christian dogma. Kudos to the LDS church for seemingly stepping back from this practice.
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You're right. That's a good point. At any rate, today's culture seems to be more understanding of mental duress and illness.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostI'm not sure your anecdotal account of one person's excommunication indicates this was a church-wide practice in the past. Local church disciplinary actions hardly set "legal" precedence and aren't always necessarily in line with church policy or doctrine, assuming they even had an explicit policy on this 30 years ago to begin with."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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/enthusiastic golf clap. "Bravo, sir. Bravo."Originally posted by Solon View PostIt's not a sin to go commando, unless your zipper breaks.
The Schwarzenegger movie Commando, on the other hand, was a sin."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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