Tell me to settle down

[FMCoug]

I will try and write a response when I have time. I can see both sides of the issue, but I strongly disagree with the PFR not being honest and forthcoming.

Here is the section from the CHOI on building use.

So it sounds like this basically comes to the level of production of the SP's diamond factory.

[Art Vandelay]

There are about three different guys in my ward who coach their sons various rec leagues and all hold practices at the church. My son is on one of those teams.

If I'm reading this correctly, what I've described above is outlawed by handbook 1. Hmmm...

That is an absolute no-no (due to all the blood sucking attorney's waiting to sue the benevolent building owner). I've had a few unofficial get togethers for kids to shoot around, with my team (just like older guys playing in the am), but no official practices.

Report all those rule-breakers; otherwise you are in violation of the honor code, yourself.

[smokymountainrain]

That is an absolute no-no (due to all the blood sucking attorney's waiting to sue the benevolent building owner). I've had a few unofficial get togethers for kids to shoot around, with my team (just like older guys playing in the am), but no official practices.

Report all those rule-breakers; otherwise you are in violation of the honor code, yourself.

heh. I guess that means I should stop giving them my keys. oops!

[BlueHair]

Donations do not make you part owner in the building. Even an apostate knows that.

[Eddie]

Our stake doesn't allow the use of buildings by folks who don't live within the stake. Not for weddings, reunions, family parties, etc. Nothing.

Church activities always take priority, but if the building isn't being used for a church function, then it can be used by someone else. Our Bishop, at least, like to give priority to our ward members if it is our wards day/time to use the building, but if no one in the ward is using it, then he's OK with others within the stake using it.

They might make an exception for a funeral. No one wants to disappoint someone who recently had a family member die...


My family regularly has extended family Christmas parties at a church building. We held my Grandmother's birthday party at a church just last weekend.

[Uncle Ted]

I am in a stake that requires:

• A signed Hold Harmless Undertaking to be filed. It is a form similar to this.
  
• A deposit be made. I think it is a $100 or so.
  
• A certificate of liability insurance be provided naming the church or the corporation of the president as an additional issued. Something like a $1M minimum in insurance coverage.

before you can schedule the building for a family event such as this. Needless to say, not very many wedding receptions are scheduled at the church.

[Borg]

KL - first things first. Put. The. Gun. Down!

Ok, now then....I've done both. And, it is strange that wards so close in proximity would not share the facility. I bet if you are reallllly bent on having the use of the facility, you could approach your stake president and they could most likely get it for you somewhere in the vacinity of your date.

However, I've also had better luck reserving a city park, with a nice pavillion, tables, the grass and fields etc.

Good luck...I think you'll be successful at either approach.

[FMCoug]

I am in a stake that requires:

• A signed Hold Harmless Undertaking to be filed. It is a form similar to this.
  
• A deposit be made. I think it is a $100 or so.
  
• A certificate of liability insurance be provided naming the church or the corporation of the president as an additional issued. Something like a $1M minimum in insurance coverage.

before you can schedule the building for a family event such as this. Needless to say, not very many wedding receptions are scheduled at the church.

I wonder if there are Texas laws that make these things a bigger deal? My experience is mostly there.

Hey do you ever have to do the "occupy the building for 24 hours straight" thing? There is some crazy law in Texas having to do with tax exempt status or some such that once a year or so we'd have to sign up for shifts to be at the building, including all through the night. They rotated it between wards. I never got all the details but it was some sort of legal thing.

[Portland Ute]

I wonder if there are Texas laws that make these things a bigger deal? My experience is mostly there.

Hey do you ever have to do the "occupy the building for 24 hours straight" thing? There is some crazy law in Texas having to do with tax exempt status or some such that once a year or so we'd have to sign up for shifts to be at the building, including all through the night. They rotated it between wards. I never got all the details but it was some sort of legal thing.

In Fruit Heights, maybe all of Utah, the parking lot has to be closed off for one entire day. Otherwise, if it is open to the public 365 days a year, it is deemed public. So, every once in a while, you see barricades up at the entrances to the Church parking lot.

[Katy Lied]

In Fruit Heights, maybe all of Utah, the parking lot has to be closed off for one entire day. Otherwise, if it is open to the public 365 days a year, it is deemed public. So, every once in a while, you see barricades up at the entrances to the Church parking lot.

I believe that BYU locks up the campus one day a year for this purpose.

[Uncle Ted]

I wonder if there are Texas laws that make these things a bigger deal? My experience is mostly there.

Hey do you ever have to do the "occupy the building for 24 hours straight" thing? There is some crazy law in Texas having to do with tax exempt status or some such that once a year or so we'd have to sign up for shifts to be at the building, including all through the night. They rotated it between wards. I never got all the details but it was some sort of legal thing.

I don't know if it is Texas state law but every year our stake puts on a Crèche around christmas time where everyone brings in their baby Jesus nativity scenes to have them displayed in the gym. Because of the value of some of these they have people keep guard all night. I did it once with some other guys from the EQ. We watched DVD's and played Texas hold'm all night.

[LA Ute]

KL - first things first. Put. The. Gun. Down!

Ok, now then....I've done both. And, it is strange that wards so close in proximity would not share the facility. I bet if you are reallllly bent on having the use of the facility, you could approach your stake president and they could most likely get it for you somewhere in the vacinity of your date.

However, I've also had better luck reserving a city park, with a nice pavillion, tables, the grass and fields etc.

Good luck...I think you'll be successful at either approach.

Buildings in our stake are often used for such things as 50th wedding anniversary celebrations, which is kind of like a wedding. Family reunions seem to fit into that, and I don't see anything in the CHOI (quoted by Art below) that prohibits a family reunion. My mission reunions are always held in a ward building or stake center. Seems to me this can be worked out and the scheduler just needs "permission" from a PH authority. Failing that, we once used one of the Murray City parks for a reunion and it worked out great.

[Moliere]

I wonder if there are Texas laws that make these things a bigger deal? My experience is mostly there.

Hey do you ever have to do the "occupy the building for 24 hours straight" thing? There is some crazy law in Texas having to do with tax exempt status or some such that once a year or so we'd have to sign up for shifts to be at the building, including all through the night. They rotated it between wards. I never got all the details but it was some sort of legal thing.

To my knowledge we don't so this. If we really had to I'd figure we'd just tell them we occupied it for 24 straight hours. How would they know we didn't?

[Jeff Lebowski]

I believe that BYU locks up the campus one day a year for this purpose.

When?

[Katy Lied]

When?

Christmas Day.
Although apparently, not every year.

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_05243f7a-0c3b-59ef-a78f-1a0feff71562.html