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  • Originally posted by Brian View Post
    i heard Jared anderson announce on the latest mormon-matters podcast that he's going to be doing a sunday school podcast.
    Yes. Because of the gaping void left in the Church due to the tightly controlled and mind-numbing Gospel Doctrine curriculum, Jared is going to try to fill the space with an "advanced" gospel doctrine.
    A Mormon president could make a perfectly patriotic, competent, inspiring leader. But not Mitt Romney. He is a husked void. --David Javerbaum

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    • In a highly interesting turn of events to the recent kerfuffle over a perceived 'hit piece' on John Dehlin, it appears Daniel Peterson has been removed as editor at FARMS Mormon Stories Review. He then resigned as Director of Advancement. I wonder whether this has anything to do with Dehlin's study result showing one of the biggest reasons people leave the church is due to bad (and often Pharisaical) apologetics?

      This is quite an intriguing development.

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      • Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
        In a highly interesting turn of events to the recent kerfuffle over a perceived 'hit piece' on John Dehlin, it appears Daniel Peterson has been removed as editor at FARMS Mormon Stories Review. He then resigned as Director of Advancement. I wonder whether this has anything to do with Dehlin's study result showing one of the biggest reasons people leave the church is due to bad (and often Pharisaical) apologetics?

        This is quite an intriguing development.
        I will take this opportunity again to reiterate my belief that Dan Peterson is one of the worst human beings alive in the world today. Serious.

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        • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
          I will take this opportunity again to reiterate my belief that Dan Peterson is one of the worst human beings alive in the world today. Serious.
          When you use hyperbole like that you owe SU a royalty.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
            In a highly interesting turn of events to the recent kerfuffle over a perceived 'hit piece' on John Dehlin, it appears Daniel Peterson has been removed as editor at FARMS Mormon Stories Review. He then resigned as Director of Advancement. I wonder whether this has anything to do with Dehlin's study result showing one of the biggest reasons people leave the church is due to bad (and often Pharisaical) apologetics?

            This is quite an intriguing development.
            whaa? when did that happen?
            Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
            God forgives many things for an act of mercy
            Alessandro Manzoni

            Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

            pelagius

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            • http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/...hp?f=1&t=24378
              I intend to live forever.
              So far, so good.
              --Steven Wright

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              • Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                whaa? when did that happen?
                Apparently it happened Thursday. DCP is currently guiding a tour in Israel for PLC types.

                http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/...hp?f=1&t=24378

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                • Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                  Apparently it happened Thursday. DCP is currently guiding a tour in Israel for PLC types.

                  http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/...hp?f=1&t=24378
                  PLC?
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    PLC?
                    BYU President's Leadership Council. A group of big money donors, movers, and shakers, who each commit to donating $1MM over a 5 year period.

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                    • Although I don't think DCP is a horrible human being, I do think he is Counterproductive. Has there ever been an apologist who drives more people away than DCP? Probably not within Mormondom, anyway.
                      Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                      "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                      • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                        Although I don't think DCP is a horrible human being, I do think he is Counterproductive. Has there ever been an apologist who drives more people away than DCP? Probably not within Mormondom, anyway.
                        Does one person really have that much influence over another's decision to walk away? Perhaps, but I'm skeptical.

                        I'm sure this will be celebrated by a certain segment, but that will reek of irony.
                        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                        • Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                          Does one person really have that much influence over another's decision to walk away? Perhaps, but I'm skeptical.

                          I'm sure this will be celebrated by a certain segment, but that will reek of irony.
                          I do. When people are clinging to a shred of faith and they go to DCP's discussion board for advice/clarity/help, and DCP is a royal dick (and then you read much of DCP's material, which is equally dickish, and often simply an attack on the credentials of those who think differently), then yes, I think DCP plays a role in their exit. It may be the straw that broke the camel's back, but that's still counterproductive.
                          Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                          "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                          • After all the trash talk, the link belongs in this thread too.

                            http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54...s-lds.html.csp

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                            • Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                              After all the trash talk, the link belongs in this thread too.

                              http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54...s-lds.html.csp
                              Nice to see you back here, RB.
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                              • Originally posted by Rosebud View Post
                                After all the trash talk, the link belongs in this thread too.

                                http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54...s-lds.html.csp
                                "I have had enough conversations with general authorities to know," Dehlin said this week, "that they don’t view ad hominem attacks as a constructive way to do apologetics."
                                OK, I'll stop.
                                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                                ― W.H. Auden


                                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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