Quit trying to rationalize your porn usage and just enjoy the pictures of naked girls (or guys if that is your thing).
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Just basically (and correct me here if this hasn't been your experience but it's been mine) that "lusting" after a woman means to prolong looking at her after having received a...sexual arousal from doing so. That doing simply that makes us "adulterers of the heart."Originally posted by Rosebud View PostSo, basically: a man is responsible his own decisions regardless of whatever decisions women might make? Quite novel
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What is your interpretation of the currently circulated doctrine?
Now, the way I see it is that if single guys didn't "prolong" the looking at beautiful single girls...little would ever happen. They might as well just stay on their mission, haha. So I would say that most people see nothing really wrong with that.
But the porn thing. I don't know. When you look at the church's definition of porn, it seems to include what I just mentioned. But just try to define porn. It's not that easy. You can find an exception to every "rule" you try to use to define it. It's why they could never prosecute that Larry Flint guy (Hustler) from what I saw on t.v. Every time the prosecution tried to define it, his lawyer brought up some socially-acceptable, ancient piece of artwork that showed the exact same thing. It's a tough thing. There really is no line. The best anybody can do is the prosecution from that Larry Flint case, which is, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it." As Saints, we usually use the "follow the spirit" tag line. Frankly, it just seems to me that we're trying too hard, and that's kind of what Jesus tried so hard to do away with from what I've read.
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I can't say I have any experience with lusting after women.Originally posted by taekwondave View PostJust basically (and correct me here if this hasn't been your experience but it's been mine) that "lusting" after a woman means to prolong looking at her after having received a...sexual arousal from doing so. That doing simply that makes us "adulterers of the heart."
Agreed. How long have you been off your mission?Originally posted by taekwondave View PostNow, the way I see it is that if single guys didn't "prolong" the looking at beautiful single girls...little would ever happen. They might as well just stay on their mission, haha. So I would say that most people see nothing really wrong with that.
Agreed. If the church's definition of porn really does indicate that it's a sin to take 'prolonged' looks at women you're attracted to, my advice would be to disregard the definition and look anyway. Enjoy lots of nice long looks and fun dates. Thats what these years of your life should be about. And don't get married too soon, k?Originally posted by taekwondave View PostBut the porn thing. I don't know. When you look at the church's definition of porn, it seems to include what I just mentioned. But just try to define porn. It's not that easy. You can find an exception to every "rule" you try to use to define it. It's why they could never prosecute that Larry Flint guy (Hustler) from what I saw on t.v. Every time the prosecution tried to define it, his lawyer brought up some socially-acceptable, ancient piece of artwork that showed the exact same thing. It's a tough thing. There really is no line. The best anybody can do is the prosecution from that Larry Flint case, which is, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it." As Saints, we usually use the "follow the spirit" tag line. Frankly, it just seems to me that we're trying too hard, and that's kind of what Jesus tried so hard to do away with from what I've read.
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Yeah, I'm doing my best to avoid marriage until I'm 35 (I'm 27). I can't tell my girlfriend that, cause she'd dump me, but that's my secret goalOriginally posted by Rosebud View PostI can't say I have any experience with lusting after women.
Agreed. How long have you been off your mission?
Agreed. If the church's definition of porn really does indicate that it's a sin to take 'prolonged' looks at women you're attracted to, my advice would be to disregard the definition and look anyway. Enjoy lots of nice long looks and fun dates. Thats what these years of your life should be about. And don't get married too soon, k?
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27 and still at BYU? Either you're a grad student, or you're not as bright as you think you are.Originally posted by taekwondave View PostYeah, I'm doing my best to avoid marriage until I'm 35 (I'm 27). I can't tell my girlfriend that, cause she'd dump me, but that's my secret goal
Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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In my defense I did disclose this on one my first threads as well as fully admitting to both my ignorance and my totally deplorable progress in school. I do not think I'm bright. I just think. My conclusions I do not defend. I have no excuse for them other than I cannot help them as I have too little information to change them yet.Originally posted by Donuthole View Post27 and still at BYU? Either you're a grad student, or you're not as bright as you think you are.
I have a pretty good reason for being this old and only this far in school aside from being a bit of a dolt though. Perhaps sometime it will come out in a thread. But not today.
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Your homosexuality is so apparent we didn't need to ask. Don't worry, we are a very gay-friendly bunch.Originally posted by TTCoug View PostSeveral people have asked taekwondave, but nobody has asked me. Is it because I am not good-looking?Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks
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Taekwondave = CUF's answer to a question that nobody asked."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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