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  • beelzebabette
    Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
    • Nov 2008
    • 2907

    #16
    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    I don't ever remember asking about adultery when I conducted an interview. Abortion and murder were the only two that I can remember asking about.
    I'm really not trying to be obtuse here. I'm asking sincere questions to understand why a missionary can teach adultery===>bad, but the same does not apply to an abortion if it's simply a matter of education. The list cowboy provided would imply there's something more to it.

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    • beelzebabette
      Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
      • Nov 2008
      • 2907

      #17
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      No problem. I am sure you really thought long and hard about why someone would ask about an abortion in a baptismal interview.
      I'm not sure if you're mocking, but I've had this question for about eight years now. The only answer I've ever gotten is "because." Literally. So, thanks for pointing out I'm idiot enough to miss the obvious answer.

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      • Surfah
        Where's Wallace?
        • Nov 2008
        • 33726

        #18
        Originally posted by cowboy View Post
        The big three:

        Felony
        Abortion
        Homosexuality (always a fun one to ask)
        Yup. I had a guy confess a Brokeback experience to me. Having to interpret for an MP who didn't speak Spanish was awkward.
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        • Senioritis
          Mr. Crimson Lover
          • Nov 2008
          • 694

          #19
          I know when my old man was Master of Ceremonies in a South American mission, the standard interview included questions about sex with animals.

          Have I mentioned I'm glad I went to New Jersey?

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          • Goatnapper'96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10924

            #20
            Originally posted by Senioritis View Post
            I know when my old man was Master of Ceremonies in a South American mission, the standard interview included questions about sex with animals.

            Have I mentioned I'm glad I went to New Jersey?
            Have you seen the women down there? I tell you there is a reason banditos prefer to rape the horses and run off on the women!


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            • RockyBalboa
              Banned
              • Nov 2008
              • 2127

              #21
              Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
              Okay. What else is run up the chain? I know murder is. Is adultery?
              The questions we were told we had to ask in terms of the biggies are as follows: Murder, Abortion, and Homosexuality/Lesbianism.

              That's all I can think of in terms of the biggies back then.

              I don't know if it's changed or not.

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #22
                Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                The questions we were told we had to ask in terms of the biggies are as follows: Murder, Abortion, and Homosexuality/Lesbianism.

                That's all I can think of in terms of the biggies back then.

                I don't know if it's changed or not.
                I vaguely remember asking about felonious crimes apart from murder as well. Anyone else?
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                • TripletDaddy
                  sweet triple
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 58186

                  #23
                  Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                  I'm not sure if you're mocking, but I've had this question for about eight years now. The only answer I've ever gotten is "because." Literally. So, thanks for pointing out I'm idiot enough to miss the obvious answer.
                  Calm down. Nobody said you were an idiot.

                  Here, try the Socratic approach.

                  BBB.....why do YOU think someone would ask about an abortion during a baptismal interview?
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                  • RobinFinderson
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10548

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                    Yup. I had a guy confess a Brokeback experience to me. Having to interpret for an MP who didn't speak Spanish was awkward.
                    I once reached this point in the interview and the dude let me know that the church's position on homosexuality was one of the things that attracted him to the faith. He went on to tell me how his marriage had ended when he came home early one day to find his wife in bed with another woman. Baptismal candidates say the darndest things.

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                    • Senioritis
                      Mr. Crimson Lover
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 694

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                      Have you seen the women down there? I tell you there is a reason banditos prefer to rape the horses and run off on the women!

                      I think those horses also have better dental hygiene than many of the women on the Jolly Olde Isle.

                      As one who labored in the England, Gingivitis mission, confirmation?

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                      • Goatnapper'96
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 10924

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                        The questions we were told we had to ask in terms of the biggies are as follows: Murder, Abortion, and Homosexuality/Lesbianism.

                        That's all I can think of in terms of the biggies back then.

                        I don't know if it's changed or not.
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                        What we learn from this is the vast differences concerning what abhorrent illicit activities the Sons and Daughters of Adam may participate based upon geographical locations and societal constructs. Who'd a thought the folks in Ecuador wanna bang a donkey or in the case of the womenfolk, I guess that rumor about what goes on in that dirty shack in Juarez might just be true!
                        Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                        -General George S. Patton

                        I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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                        • il Padrino Ute
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19161

                          #27
                          Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                          I'm really not trying to be obtuse here. I'm asking sincere questions to understand why a missionary can teach adultery===>bad, but the same does not apply to an abortion if it's simply a matter of education. The list cowboy provided would imply there's something more to it.

                          You're fine. I was just relating what I remember from my mission days. Adultery only came up during the discussion about living the law of chastity.
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                          • beelzebabette
                            Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2907

                            #28
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Here, try the Socratic approach.

                            BBB.....why do YOU think someone would ask about an abortion during a baptismal interview?
                            All right. I'll back off.

                            Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't come up with a logical answer. I assume it's because baptism could be denied to a woman, and I don't know what that situation would be. I don't ask it to imply voluntary abortion isn't a big deal. My question remains.

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #29
                              Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                              All right. I'll back off.

                              Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't come up with a logical answer. I assume it's because baptism could be denied to a woman, and I don't know what that situation would be. I don't ask it to imply voluntary abortion isn't a big deal. My question remains.
                              No worries. the part about the woman raises an interesting point. In my mission, We asked both genders whether they had been a party to an abortion. So, in other words, the guy would still be accountable even though he technically did not have an abortion or "perform" the abortion.

                              We had to be very specific about how we phrased the questions because the Bolivians were crafty. They would bust out their Websters dictionaries and flip to the definition of the word, "lie".......
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                              • Fiyero
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 5266

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                                Yup. I had a guy confess a Brokeback experience to me. Having to interpret for an MP who didn't speak Spanish was awkward.
                                The MP didn't care to thrust in his sickle and learn the language, eh?

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