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  • #16
    Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
    I call pure bunk for the following reasons:

    1. The Q12 and 1st and 2nd Q of Seventies are on the road nearly every single weekend. Even those that are based in SLC are on the road about 46 weekends out of the year. Two of the other 6 weekends are for General Conference. Thus, there are maybe a total of about 4 weekends a year when they don't have an assignment. There is a non-zero probability that a couple of GAs with the same off week in the same neck of the woods gather together someplace to drink beer and watch football on a non-conference weekend but I deem this highly improbable; bordering on an infinitesimally small probability.
    2. On conference weekend, GAs typically do not leave the conference center/COB/JSB compound between sessions. The church provides a luncheon for them onsite. If, for some reason, a GA chooses not to attend the group luncheon, the church provides a "box lunch" for them. I've personally sat with GAs as they ate their box lunches at their desks in the COB between sessions. No football was on and no beer was swilled.
    3. Nearly all of the FP/Q12/Seventies have their wives with them on conference weekend and their wives attend the same luncheon as the GAs. Ordinary Mormons would be hard pressed to have pizza and beer with their wives around, let alone GAs.
    4. The 5 GAs I personally know (all 1st/2nd Quorumers)are simply not the kind of men that would sit around with pizza/beer on Sunday. They 5 that I know don't even turn on their phones to check scores, let alone have a pizza/beerfest with a bunch of other GAs.
    5. It is also theoretically possible that a group of Area Authority Seventies are gathering on a Sunday for pizza/beer, because they don't travel outside their area as much. But then, they aren't General Authorities, are they? I place the probability of this behavior from AA70s slightly higher than the probability for GAs, but that's not saying much.
    6. The odds that one GA somewhere has had a pizza/beerfest are better than the odds that multiple GAs have gotten together for a pizza/beerfest. Just think of the old joke "Why do you have to always take two Mormons fishing with you? Because if you take only one Mormon he will drink all your beer." GAs are way more more visible than the average member and they conduct themselves accordingly. So some lone GA somewhere, somehow, having a pizza/beerfest on Sunday while watching games on the tube is probably the best chance of there being any truth to such a lame rumor. Even this scenario is in my opinion very, very unlikely.
    what's the matter with you lately? you are really highly strung.

    I think FMCoug was kidding but in the event he was serious, you certainly have given all of us some salient points to consider about whether GAs/12 get together during conference to eat pizza and drink beer. You have convinced me that it is unlikely.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by grapevine View Post
      I think on the Guard someone was talking of how Dallins son in law was a big nfl fan and Ga's have a place to gather on Sunday with Pizza and Mountain Dew to watch the nfl. That may be pure bunk though.
      I think grape is referring to one of my posts. I have a buddy whose grandfather was a well-known GA back in the 70's. He had an apartment in downtown SLC and my buddy swears that a few fellow GA's used to come over on Sunday afternoon to watch football and drink Pepsi. One of them is still an apostle. But my friend is known to exaggerate so take it with a grain of salt.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        In Provo, we have to race to our cars to get to the restaurants before the rest of the white-shirt-and-tie crowd. Some people slip out before the closing hymn and/or prayer to get the best tables. Jerks.
        I'm all over this. My son and I got tons of dirty looks as we cut out during the closing song. I told my wife yesterday "I feel like a total loser cutting out early but I'd feel like a bigger loser sitting in my car in a traffic jam trying to get out of the stake parking lot and then in a long line waiting for a table at the restaurant."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
          Not pure bunk. You're actually really close. Except that it's pizza and beer, not mountain dew.
          http://www.wasatchbeers.com/polygporter.html

          I'm pretty sure this is the beer they drink. They just love the irony of it all.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            I'm all over this. My son and I got tons of dirty looks as we cut out during the closing song. I told my wife yesterday "I feel like a total loser cutting out early but I'd feel like a bigger loser sitting in my car in a traffic jam trying to get out of the stake parking lot and then in a long line waiting for a table at the restaurant."
            I've followed a better strategy the last two conferences: choose the location of
            your post conference dining and then find a stake center close by. Then when you talk the walk of shame out as the closing hymn is playing, none of the dirty looks are from ward and stake members.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Good heavens, you need to adjust your TIC meter.
              I've never been good at detecting TIC.

              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
              what's the matter with you lately? you are really highly strung.

              I think FMCoug was kidding but in the event he was serious, you certainly have given all of us some salient points to consider about whether GAs/12 get together during conference to eat pizza and drink beer. You have convinced me that it is unlikely.
              Lately? I'm this way all the time. You only noticed after I crapped on you for "incessant banter", which has been much improved by the way.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                Lately? I'm this way all the time. You only noticed after I crapped on you for "incessant banter", which has been much improved by the way.
                BFM: thanks for this. Someone had to do it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                  Lately? I'm this way all the time. You only noticed after I crapped on you for "incessant banter", which has been much improved by the way.
                  Thanks for noticing. I have been working a lot on my incessant banter skills.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                    I call pure bunk for the following reasons:

                    1. The Q12 and 1st and 2nd Q of Seventies are on the road nearly every single weekend. Even those that are based in SLC are on the road about 46 weekends out of the year. Two of the other 6 weekends are for General Conference. Thus, there are maybe a total of about 4 weekends a year when they don't have an assignment. There is a non-zero probability that a couple of GAs with the same off week in the same neck of the woods gather together someplace to drink beer and watch football on a non-conference weekend but I deem this highly improbable; bordering on an infinitesimally small probability.
                    2. On conference weekend, GAs typically do not leave the conference center/COB/JSB compound between sessions. The church provides a luncheon for them onsite. If, for some reason, a GA chooses not to attend the group luncheon, the church provides a "box lunch" for them. I've personally sat with GAs as they ate their box lunches at their desks in the COB between sessions. No football was on and no beer was swilled.
                    3. Nearly all of the FP/Q12/Seventies have their wives with them on conference weekend and their wives attend the same luncheon as the GAs. Ordinary Mormons would be hard pressed to have pizza and beer with their wives around, let alone GAs.
                    4. The 5 GAs I personally know (all 1st/2nd Quorumers)are simply not the kind of men that would sit around with pizza/beer on Sunday. They 5 that I know don't even turn on their phones to check scores, let alone have a pizza/beerfest with a bunch of other GAs.
                    5. It is also theoretically possible that a group of Area Authority Seventies are gathering on a Sunday for pizza/beer, because they don't travel outside their area as much. But then, they aren't General Authorities, are they? I place the probability of this behavior from AA70s slightly higher than the probability for GAs, but that's not saying much.
                    6. The odds that one GA somewhere has had a pizza/beerfest are better than the odds that multiple GAs have gotten together for a pizza/beerfest. Just think of the old joke "Why do you have to always take two Mormons fishing with you? Because if you take only one Mormon he will drink all your beer." GAs are way more more visible than the average member and they conduct themselves accordingly. So some lone GA somewhere, somehow, having a pizza/beerfest on Sunday while watching games on the tube is probably the best chance of there being any truth to such a lame rumor. Even this scenario is in my opinion very, very unlikely.

                    EDIT: I recognize that the beer thing may have been a joke by FM. That being said, I would say the same goes for Pizza/Mountain Dew or anything else. The probability of truthiness goes up when you take away the beer aspect but not by much, for the same reasons I have outlined.


                    EDIT: Oh crap, you were serious.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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