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    I am sure it has been discussed before, but my feable search didn't find the answer...

    What is the reason it isn't televised on KBYU?

    I can read it in the Ensign, and I believe it is eventually available on LDS.org. (I may be wrong on that though.)

    Is it a testing of our faithfulness type of thing? I have always thought that this is where the SP starts getting names for folks to pray about when filling callings. I would venture to say that those that attend those meetings are probably a little more devout.

    I find it curious though. The RS session was broadcast and TW watched it from the house. I listened to it while she was watching and it was enjoyable. I thought President Monson gave a really good talk. And I probably have benefited from just hearing it.

    There may not be a concrete answer, but it was something I have been thinking about and HL posted something earlier that has lead me to post on the subject.

    I am working the sideline at a JC football game Saturday night and I will be missing the session. I would love to be able to DVR it though...

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    Gotta be the testing of faithfulness. It is available about a week later online. But why not broadcast it online live like they do the other sessions? It's not even available to a lot of the world stake center broadcast.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jacob View Post
      Gotta be the testing of faithfulness. It is available about a week later online. But why not broadcast it online live like they do the other sessions? It's not even available to a lot of the world stake center broadcast.
      Sometimes someone will refer to a talk given in the Priesthood Session the night before and I wont have seen it (I usually don't go btw...I know I should) and then I feel like I might have missed out on something.

      Or someone I really respect on here will mention how so and so gave such a good talk in the PH session and I would love to go and check it out. Then I forget about it a week later.

      Someday...

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      • #4
        The Priesthood Session is my favorite session. That might be because I'm forced to sit in an uncomfortable seat for two hours. If I watched it at home, I'd fall asleep like I do during the rest of the sessions. I also have very fond memories of going to PS and then out to dinner with my dad and then my brothers as they grew older. I can't wait to do that with my son. I don't think that's a real reason to broadcast only in stake centers, but it works for me.
        "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
        —Abraham Maslow

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        • #5
          It used to be that the Priesthood Session was only available in printed form after the session, but I noticed this past April that the video was available a day or two later on the church web site.

          You can see all of the talks or the whole session here: http://lds.org/conference/sessions/d...1-1207,00.html by clicking on one of the buttons in the "watch" column.

          I also have fond memories of attending the Priesthood Session with my father from the time I was 12 years old until I moved out of Utah. I was happy to drive a few miles to attend with him and my brother instead of going locally. I did that with my sons during their teenage years, but neither of them live close by now. I don't think I've ever missed one since I turned 12.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
            The Priesthood Session is my favorite session. That might be because I'm forced to sit in an uncomfortable seat for two hours. If I watched it at home, I'd fall asleep like I do during the rest of the sessions. I also have very fond memories of going to PS and then out to dinner with my dad and then my brothers as they grew older. I can't wait to do that with my son. I don't think that's a real reason to broadcast only in stake centers, but it works for me.
            This
            "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

            "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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            • #7
              Yup. They want you to actually go to the meeting, gathering with the priesthood.
              τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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              • #8
                Originally posted by All-American View Post
                Yup. They want you to actually go to the meeting, gathering with the priesthood.
                My wife and I were talking about this the other day, and why they only broadcast it at church. When you think about it, almost every priesthood Manual has at least one lesson on the importance of a quorum, so it's not surprising that the church would want the priesthood both locally and in a world wide sense to gather as one large quorum.
                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
                  The Priesthood Session is my favorite session. That might be because I'm forced to sit in an uncomfortable seat for two hours. If I watched it at home, I'd fall asleep like I do during the rest of the sessions. I also have very fond memories of going to PS and then out to dinner with my dad and then my brothers as they grew older. I can't wait to do that with my son. I don't think that's a real reason to broadcast only in stake centers, but it works for me.
                  In Provo, we have to race to our cars to get to the restaurants before the rest of the white-shirt-and-tie crowd. Some people slip out before the closing hymn and/or prayer to get the best tables. Jerks.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    In Provo, we have to race to our cars to get to the restaurants before the rest of the white-shirt-and-tie crowd. Some people slip out before the closing hymn and/or prayer to get the best tables. Jerks.
                    In a Priesthood session Emeritus Seventy Vaughn told of how he was in the Assembly Hall and after last talk people did not wait for song and prayer several people took off to save time. He railed on them. I did that after a Stake Conference once to beat the crowd to the parking lot. There may be two lines to swing that night put them on pipe trailor and across field. I guess I will have to swing them early. Boise State they should win there game but Alabama most BSU fans will watch that game hoping for a tie defeat.

                    Too bad final four is conference week now. So I am sure there will be a mad dash to get out to see the ball games. We do sometimes have refreshments in our ward building after conference. That is nice to get to bs with people after. I think the Alabama game is calling my name though when the session is over.

                    A few years ago Gordon said I am letting you out early so you not me you can watch the BYU game. I wonder if Tom will say something like that about the other games.

                    I think on the Guard someone was talking of how Dallins son in law was a big nfl fan and Ga's have a place to gather on Sunday with Pizza and Mountain Dew to watch the nfl. That may be pure bunk though.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by grapevine
                      I think on the Guard someone was talking of how Dallins son in law was a big nfl fan and Ga's have a place to gather on Sunday with Pizza and Mountain Dew to watch the nfl. That may be pure bunk though.
                      i can verify. there is actually a secret iggy's in the salt lake temple.
                      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        In Provo, we have to race to our cars to get to the restaurants before the rest of the white-shirt-and-tie crowd. Some people slip out before the closing hymn and/or prayer to get the best tables. Jerks.
                        Ah the beauty of not living in the Mormon belt. You could always have your wife go to the restaurant 10 minutes before the end and reserve a table for everyone.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by grapevine View Post
                          In a Priesthood session Emeritus Seventy Vaughn told of how he was in the Assembly Hall and after last talk people did not wait for song and prayer several people took off to save time. He railed on them. I did that after a Stake Conference once to beat the crowd to the parking lot. There may be two lines to swing that night put them on pipe trailor and across field. I guess I will have to swing them early. Boise State they should win there game but Alabama most BSU fans will watch that game hoping for a tie defeat.

                          Too bad final four is conference week now. So I am sure there will be a mad dash to get out to see the ball games. We do sometimes have refreshments in our ward building after conference. That is nice to get to bs with people after. I think the Alabama game is calling my name though when the session is over.

                          A few years ago Gordon said I am letting you out early so you not me you can watch the BYU game. I wonder if Tom will say something like that about the other games.

                          I think on the Guard someone was talking of how Dallins son in law was a big nfl fan and Ga's have a place to gather on Sunday with Pizza and Mountain Dew to watch the nfl. That may be pure bunk though.
                          Not pure bunk. You're actually really close. Except that it's pizza and beer, not mountain dew.
                          "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                            Not pure bunk. You're actually really close. Except that it's pizza and beer, not mountain dew.
                            I call pure bunk for the following reasons:

                            1. The Q12 and 1st and 2nd Q of Seventies are on the road nearly every single weekend. Even those that are based in SLC are on the road about 46 weekends out of the year. Two of the other 6 weekends are for General Conference. Thus, there are maybe a total of about 4 weekends a year when they don't have an assignment. There is a non-zero probability that a couple of GAs with the same off week in the same neck of the woods gather together someplace to drink beer and watch football on a non-conference weekend but I deem this highly improbable; bordering on an infinitesimally small probability.
                            2. On conference weekend, GAs typically do not leave the conference center/COB/JSB compound between sessions. The church provides a luncheon for them onsite. If, for some reason, a GA chooses not to attend the group luncheon, the church provides a "box lunch" for them. I've personally sat with GAs as they ate their box lunches at their desks in the COB between sessions. No football was on and no beer was swilled.
                            3. Nearly all of the FP/Q12/Seventies have their wives with them on conference weekend and their wives attend the same luncheon as the GAs. Ordinary Mormons would be hard pressed to have pizza and beer with their wives around, let alone GAs.
                            4. The 5 GAs I personally know (all 1st/2nd Quorumers)are simply not the kind of men that would sit around with pizza/beer on Sunday. They 5 that I know don't even turn on their phones to check scores, let alone have a pizza/beerfest with a bunch of other GAs.
                            5. It is also theoretically possible that a group of Area Authority Seventies are gathering on a Sunday for pizza/beer, because they don't travel outside their area as much. But then, they aren't General Authorities, are they? I place the probability of this behavior from AA70s slightly higher than the probability for GAs, but that's not saying much.
                            6. The odds that one GA somewhere has had a pizza/beerfest are better than the odds that multiple GAs have gotten together for a pizza/beerfest. Just think of the old joke "Why do you have to always take two Mormons fishing with you? Because if you take only one Mormon he will drink all your beer." GAs are way more more visible than the average member and they conduct themselves accordingly. So some lone GA somewhere, somehow, having a pizza/beerfest on Sunday while watching games on the tube is probably the best chance of there being any truth to such a lame rumor. Even this scenario is in my opinion very, very unlikely.

                            EDIT: I recognize that the beer thing may have been a joke by FM. That being said, I would say the same goes for Pizza/Mountain Dew or anything else. The probability of truthiness goes up when you take away the beer aspect but not by much, for the same reasons I have outlined.
                            Last edited by BigFatMeanie; 10-04-2010, 09:05 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                              I call pure bunk for the following reasons:

                              1. The Q12 and 1st and 2nd Q of Seventies are on the road nearly every single weekend. Even those that are based in SLC are on the road about 46 weekends out of the year. Two of the other 6 weekends are for General Conference. Thus, there are maybe a total of about 4 weekends a year when they don't have an assignment. There is a non-zero probability that a couple of GAs with the same off week in the same neck of the woods gather together someplace to drink beer and watch football on a non-conference weekend but I deem this highly improbable; bordering on an infinitesimally small probability.
                              2. On conference weekend, GAs typically do not leave the conference center/COB/JSB compound between sessions. The church provides a luncheon for them onsite. If, for some reason, a GA chooses not to attend the group luncheon, the church provides a "box lunch" for them. I've personally sat with GAs as they ate their box lunches at their desks in the COB between sessions. No football was on and no beer was swilled.
                              3. Nearly all of the FP/Q12/Seventies have their wives with them on conference weekend and their wives attend the same luncheon as the GAs. Ordinary Mormons would be hard pressed to have pizza and beer with their wives around, let alone GAs.
                              4. The 5 GAs I personally know (all 1st/2nd Quorumers)are simply not the kind of men that would sit around with pizza/beer on Sunday. They 5 that I know don't even turn on their phones to check scores, let alone have a pizza/beerfest with a bunch of other GAs.
                              5. It is also theoretically possible that a group of Area Authority Seventies are gathering on a Sunday for pizza/beer, because they don't travel outside their area as much. But then, they aren't General Authorities, are they? I place the probability of this behavior from AA70s slightly higher than the probability for GAs, but that's not saying much.
                              6. The odds that one GA somewhere has had a pizza/beerfest are better than the odds that multiple GAs have gotten together for a pizza/beerfest. Just think of the old joke "Why do you have to always take two Mormons fishing with you? Because if you take only one Mormon he will drink all your beer." GAs are way more more visible than the average member and they conduct themselves accordingly. So some lone GA somewhere, somehow, having a pizza/beerfest on Sunday while watching games on the tube is probably the best chance of there being any truth to such a lame rumor. Even this scenario is in my opinion very, very unlikely.
                              Good heavens, you need to adjust your TIC meter.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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