Should LDS farmers grow barley for beer?

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

My FIL has been told that we are in the wrong to operate bars at the ski area and resort. Never by anyone in leadership.

[LA Ute]

My grandfather was a tobacco farmer for most of his life. He only transitioned away from it because there was more money in turkey farming, which he did for the last ten years of his career.

What I really want to know: Was his tobacco toasted?

Oh, I love the stuff.

I grew up drinking Postum. My parents always had a big bottle of it in the cupboard. My mom, a convert, had a fierce coffee habit before joining and the Postum seemed to be a good psychological substitute for her.

[SteelBlue]

Surfah killed it in this thread. Too funny.

[Non Sequitur]

My FIL has been told that we are in the wrong to operate bars at the ski area and resort. Never by anyone in leadership.

On my mission we had a guy that wanted to be baptized, but my companion told him he couldn't be baptized unless he stopped selling beer in his little corner market. I asked my companion whether that was official policy and suggested we run it past the mission president. He said something about the Light of Christ and that we didn't need to get the mission president involved. The guy never got baptized.

[Jeff Lebowski]

On my mission we had a guy that wanted to be baptized, but my companion told him he couldn't be baptized unless he stopped selling beer in his little corner market. I asked my companion whether that was official policy and suggested we run it past the mission president. He said something about the Light of Christ and that we didn't need to get the mission president involved. The guy never got baptized.

I heard that the church used to sell liquor in the Hotel Utah. I wonder if that rumor is true.

[LA Ute]

I heard that the church used to sell liquor in the Hotel Utah. I wonder if that rumor is true.

I don't think it could have been a 5-star hotel otherwise (and it was).

[pellegrino]

What I really want to know: Was his tobacco toasted?

What does that mean? The traditional way to cure tobacco in most of the south was to flue cure it in a specialized barn. You can see old, crumbling tobacco barns all over rural areas where tobacco was grown.

[LA Ute]

What does that mean? The traditional way to cure tobacco in most of the south was to flue cure it in a specialized barn. You can see old, crumbling tobacco barns all over rural areas where tobacco was grown.

It is just an obscure "Mad Men" reference.

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[Goatnapper'96]

Goat, please share the story you shared with me over the weekend.

Out in Grace there was a serious dustup over the selling of barley to Anheiseur-Busch. Apparantly, the self righteous folks in Caribou County started writing letters to the editor discussing the nefarious LDS farmers selling their barley to AB and how it was such a violation of their temple covenants. Eventually a Stake President, also a barley farmer, wrote a rather scathing letter to the local rag outlining why he sells barley to AB and how it doesn't bother him a bit. Apparantly, either his logic was impeccable or his calling suddenly made it al'ight, but the issue seemed to have died for a generation.

Mormons and their spiritual peacock dancing can be rather humorous.

[grapevine]

I was in Grace for a funeral today. The guy I went to's funeral told of how a Bishop who raced horses was called. SP asked him do you bet on Horses. Prospective Bishop waited a while SP said well do you and Prospective Bishop said not anymore. Than the Horseracers would say you sell beer barley and they would say that is our living. HorseRacers would say that is our living too.

In bio of SWK when he was an apostle he could not consider someone to a Stake President Position if he didn't close on Sunday and get rid of his liquor liscense. But he was getting called to a position of responsibility.

Many good LDS people sell Beer in there stores. I think the reason they do that is if they didn't than beer drinkers would buy other groceries besides beer in other stores and run them out of business. Though SWK praised a man who did not sell the forbidden.

Some lady complained about selling cigarettes to her boss who is also LDS. I have seen many issues about malt barley. I would not grow it but know many LDS farmers that do.

[The Fourth Nephite]

Out in Grace there was a serious dustup over the selling of barley to Anheiseur-Busch. Apparantly, the self righteous folks in Caribou County started writing letters to the editor discussing the nefarious LDS farmers selling their barley to AB and how it was such a violation of their temple covenants. Eventually a Stake President, also a barley farmer, wrote a rather scathing letter to the local rag outlining why he sells barley to AB and how it doesn't bother him a bit. Apparantly, either his logic was impeccable or his calling suddenly made it al'ight, but the issue seemed to have died for a generation.

Mormons and their spiritual peacock dancing can be rather humorous.

Maybe standards for being a Stake President in Idaho are lower than in other places?

[hopfrog]

Is it true that "the church" owns Coca-Cola stock? Is coke officially regarded as non-kosher in relation to ye WoW? I've seen missionaries drinking cokes in their flats, so I've always been confused as to what the official stance is regarding coke and the WoW. I'm drinking coke at ye moment.

[pellegrino]

Is it true that "the church" owns Coca-Cola stock? Is coke officially regarded as non-kosher in relation to ye WoW? I've seen missionaries drinking cokes in their flats, so I've always been confused as to what the official stance is regarding coke and the WoW. I'm drinking coke at ye moment.

there is no official church stance regarding coca cola or caffeinated drinks. As to whether or not the church owns Coca Cola stock, I'm sure it's just an unsubstantiated rumor.

[LA Ute]

Is it true that "the church" owns Coca-Cola stock? Is coke officially regarded as non-kosher in relation to ye WoW? I've seen missionaries drinking cokes in their flats, so I've always been confused as to what the official stance is regarding coke and the WoW. I'm drinking coke at ye moment.

I guzzle a glass of the stuff almost daily.

[Moliere]

there is no official church stance regarding coca cola or caffeinated drinks. As to whether or not the church owns Coca Cola stock, I'm sure it's just an unsubstantiated rumor.

Oddly enough there used to be a stance on this or at least a personal plea from HJG. DapperDan and I had a good discussion on this and sent me some links that I hadn't seen before. Here is a link that contains an interesting statement by HJG:

The head of the health department, Dr. Beatty, has requested me to say to the Latter-day Saints that there are more injurious ingredients in coca-cola than there are in coffee, and particularly when some of the good people say: "Give me the double shot." I say to the Latter-day Saints, and it is my right to say it-because you have sung, since this conference started (whether you meant it or not, I am not saying)-

"We thank Thee, O God, for a prophet,

To guide us in these latter days; We thank Thee for sending the gospel

To lighten our minds with its rays; We thank Thee for every blessing

Bestowed by Thy bounteous hand; We feel it a pleasure to serve Thee,

And love to obey Thy command."

Now, if you mean it-I am not going to give any command, but I will ask it as a personal, individual favor to me, to let coca-cola alone. There are plenty of other things you can get at the soda fountains without drinking that which is injurious. The Lord does not want you to use any drug that creates an appetite for itself.