I learned in church today

[TripletDaddy]

"We have people in this room who have cheated on their spouses."

Perhaps he was using the New Testament "lust in your heart" standard? You can be sure that The guilty parties would have felt the sting of rebuke from the 12 year old in my sacrament meeting, encouraging everyone to repent of sexual sin.

In any case, an unnecessary thing to say in an effort to make a point during your talk.

[DrumNFeather]

Well, we are right around Law of Chastity time in the Gospel Principles book so I suspect we'll get some good stories. We actually had a very good discussion on it in my EQ today.

[Sizzle]

That Bronco Mendenhall selected the theme of "Rise Up" from the hymn "Rise Up, O Men of God."

[doctorcoug]

The guys in my EQ are pretty down to earth people. Though, a couple just don't get that "abstinence only" policy doesn't work outside of the church.

Also, our correlation committee doesn't think they are gay or lesbian, they are "so-called gays and lesbians". How utterly ridiculous.

[UtahDan]

"We have people in this room who have cheated on their spouses."

I bet you would be hard pressed to say that in a ward where that was not true,.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

How exactly did diet coke devastate her life? Did she say?

You sound like someone who has never gone 24 hours without a Diet Coke/Mtn Dew. That headache is real.

[Donuthole]

I bet you would be hard pressed to say that in a ward where that was not true,.

I do not think that sentence means what you think it means.

[UtahDan]

I do not think that sentence means what you think it means.

Did I miss something? I think there is someone in pretty much every ward who has committed adultery at some point in their life. Probably there are exceptions, but that is not an uncommon sin unfortunately. Straighten me out if I am overlooking something obvious in my sentence construction though.

[GrizzledVeteran]

Gospel Doctrine read the following from Glenn L Pace yesterday:

The last category of criticism I will address comes from within the Church itself. This criticism is more lethal than that coming from nonmembers and former members. The danger lies not in what may come from a member critic, but in the chance that we might become one.

One activity which often leads a member to be critical is engaging in inappropriate intellectualism. While it would seem the search for and discovery of truth should be the goal of all Latter-day Saints, it appears some get more satisfaction from trying to discover new uncertainties. I have friends who have literally spent their lives, thus far, trying to nail down every single intellectual loose end rather than accepting the witness of the Spirit and getting on with it. In so doing, they are depriving themselves of a gold mine of beautiful truths which cannot be tapped by the mind alone.

Elder Faust describes this type of intellectual as “a person who continues to chase after a bus even after he has caught it.” We invite everyone to get on the bus before it’s out of sight and you are left forever trying to figure out the infinite with a finite mind. In the words of Elijah, “How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him.” (1 Kgs. 18:21.)

Inappropriate intellectualism sometimes leads one to testify that he knows the gospel is true but believes the Brethren are just a little out of touch. Out of touch with what? Don’t confuse a decision to abstain from participating in a trend with a lack of awareness about its existence. These Brethren “prove all things” and “hold fast that which is good.” (1 Thes. 5:21.) To accomplish this, they are in constant touch with Him who created this earth and knows the world from beginning to end.

There are some of our members who practice selective obedience. A prophet is not one who displays a smorgasbord of truth from which we are free to pick and choose. However, some members become critical and suggest the prophet should change the menu. A prophet doesn’t take a poll to see which way the wind of public opinion is blowing. He reveals the will of the Lord to us. The world is full of deteriorating churches who have succumbed to public opinion and have become more dedicated to tickling the ears of their members than obeying the laws of God.

[CardiacCoug]

Here was a quote from Joseph F. Smith (Improvement Era, 1906):

The Lord has given unto us garments of the holy priesthood, and you know what that means. And yet there are those of us who mutilate them, in order that we may follow the foolish, vain and (permit me to say) indecent practices of the world. In order that such people may imitate the fashions, they will not hesitate to mutilate that which should be held … sacred. … They should hold these things that God has given unto them sacred, unchanged and unaltered from the very pattern in which God gave them. Let us have the moral courage to stand against the opinions of fashion, and especially where fashion compels us to break a covenant and so commit a grievous sin.

Funny, since I seem to recall that the garment was officially "mutilated" to a pretty extreme degree in 1922.

[CardiacCoug]

Gospel Doctrine read the following from Glenn L Pace yesterday:

A prophet doesn’t take a poll to see which way the wind of public opinion is blowing. He reveals the will of the Lord to us.

Thank goodness this is false.

We would still have polygamy, wrist-to-ankle one-piece garments, institutional racism, etc. if prophets weren't subject to the tide of public opinion.

Gay rights/marriage are next.

[TripletDaddy]

Thank goodness this is false.

We would still have polygamy, knee-to-ankle one-piece garments, institutional racism, etc. if prophets weren't subject to the tide of public opinion.

Gay rights/marriage are next.

Word of Wisdom.

All in favor, please manifest.

[YOhio]

Word of Wisdom.

All in favor, please manifest.

[TripletDaddy]

I hardly doubt that the actual conference vote looked anything like that.

[Donuthole]

Did I miss something? I think there is someone in pretty much every ward who has committed adultery at some point in their life. Probably there are exceptions, but that is not an uncommon sin unfortunately. Straighten me out if I am overlooking something obvious in my sentence construction though.

I think what you were saying is that one would be hard-pressed to find a ward which didn't contain a present or past adulterer, however you instead wrote something that made it seem like it would be difficult to speak the phrase "we have people in this room who have cheated on their spouses" in a ward where there were no adulterers.

So yes, I was being an ass and mocking your sentence construction.