I learned in church today

[Sullyute]

You seem like a pleasant person.

Our father’s and sons/daughters campout is the Friday before Father’s day. Hopefully the SMR’s of the ward stay home so the rest of us can enjoy making fun of them behind their backs!

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I he wanted your comment he would have invited you to comment.

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[MartyFunkhouser]

father/daughter, father/son campouts are stupid and I never go. if I want to go camping with my son, I go camping with my son. if I want to go camping with my daughters, I go camping with my daughters. if I want other people there, I invite other people - the people of my choosing. I don't need the ward to organize it and choose the place - nor do I want them to.

I respectfully request an invite. In support of my request, I promise to remain a faithful member of the Alec Burks fan club.

[smokymountainrain]

Our father’s and sons/daughters campout is the Friday before Father’s day. Hopefully the SMR’s of the ward stay home so the rest of us can enjoy making fun of them behind their backs!

We will! Enjoy your shitty food and lack of shade!

[CardiacCoug]

As priesthood holders / agents of God, we still have agency. We have to choose to endure to the end. We have to choose to keep the covenants we have made. Accepting the priesthood is still a probationary state. The process of sanctification is one where we continue to sin, but over time it should be less and less. Repentance is the process of quitting things we are supposed to not do and starting to do the things we are supposed to. This is a gradual process, a ladder, and we continue this climb/path in an imperfect, yet justified state, because of our continuous repenting, the Atonement, and our covenants. Ultimately, when we have proven faithful enough we will be fully sanctified, but for now we are justified by the grace of God, BECAUSE WE STILL SIN. Also, agency is a divine principle -- God possesses and exercises His agency based on a full knowledge of good and evil ("ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil"). He knows sin brings pain and death and always chooses good.

Whoa how do you know all this stuff?

Isn’t all this far too abstract and theoretical to put out there like it’s math or science?

Seriously I don’t understand how anybody can think he knows all this very specific stuff about what God supposedly does and knows and agency and repentance and justification and atonement and all this stuff works.

You understand that people have just made all this stuff up, right? The biggest mistake is thinking any of that stuff you state with such assurance is knowable or known by you.

[Northwestcoug]

It’s always interesting to see which religious post will set Cardiac off.

[smokymountainrain]

You understand that people have made all this stuff up, right?

Lol. Love cardiac.

[All-American]

Whoa how do you know all this stuff?

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Seriously I don’t understand how anybody can think he knows all this very specific stuff about what God supposedly does and knows and agency and repentance and justification and atonement and all this stuff works.

Revelation!

[CardiacCoug]

It’s always interesting to see which religious post will set Cardiac off.

It’s the glib certainty and lecturing, condescending tone that triggers me I think.

[Pelado]

Revelation!

According to John Taylor, present revelation is the foundation of our religion.

[clackamascoug]

It’s the glib certainty and lecturing, condescending tone that triggers me I think.

I think you dosed out an equal amount of glib certainty, lecturing, and condescension to poor Brother Crockett.

Don't turn on me, I'm only the messenger.

[Green Monstah]

You understand that people have made all this stuff up, right?

Lol. Love cardiac.

I did a double-take to make sure it wasn't SoonerCoug's avi.

[LVAllen]

Study question for next week:

How do I honor and please myself instead of honoring God?

Ahem.

[Eddie]

The government forces everyone to have a colonoscopy.

This was in Teacher's Quorum. I'm not sure what made the kid an expert on colonoscopies, but I guess his step-dad is a Dr.

He insisted that the government forces everyone to have one, whether they want it or not. I stopped the discussion to assure the other boys that the government does not force this on everyone. He followed up with something along the lines of basically requiring it and talking everyone into getting it done.

Weird conversation for a Teacher's Quorum. Then again - I think about anything is game in the 14 yr old mind.

[Uncle Ted]

The government forces everyone to have a colonoscopy.

This was in Teacher's Quorum. I'm not sure what made the kid an expert on colonoscopies, but I guess his step-dad is a Dr.

He insisted that the government forces everyone to have one, whether they want it or not. I stopped the discussion to assure the other boys that the government does not force this on everyone. He followed up with something along the lines of basically requiring it and talking everyone into getting it done.

Weird conversation for a Teacher's Quorum. Then again - I think about anything is game in the 14 yr old mind.

LOL... yeah, the government does force everyone to have a colonoscopy. I would have told the kid what the government actually does to everyone is a lot worse and left it at that.