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  • Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
    So easy you missed it.
    That article was boring as hell.
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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    • Originally posted by Topper View Post
      That was a long-winded argument in favor of apologetics.

      In essence, it is arguing that it is okay to be not-nice in arguing as long as you are polite. And by the way, the Church has some really cool apologetics. Moreover, the orthodox intellectuals have a place in the Church, so nobody need to fear.

      That was an example of arguing about points which don't matter to anybody but a small number of orthodox LDS.
      That wasn't what the article was about at all. I'm guessing you (like SU) did not get past the first few pages.
      Last edited by UVACoug; 05-06-2014, 06:29 AM.

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      • Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
        That wasn't what the article was about at all. I'm guessing you (like SU) did not get past the first few pages.
        There might be the problem.
        Get confident, stupid
        -landpoke

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        • Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
          That wasn't what the article was about at all. I'm guessing you (like SU) did not get past the first few pages.
          I am guessing you didn't read it very closely either. Please support why it needed to discuss the justification for apologetics in such a belabored fashion. The ponderous nature in which it addressed a juvenile topic turned me off. And this from a guy who likes Dialog and Sunstone, or at least some of their better articles. His final point that "anti-contention" perspective is bound up with "anti-intellectualism" shouldn't have required so many pages.

          In the end, I have mixed feel-
          ings about the rise of orthodox
          scholarship. As someone who
          does not believe in the historicity
          of the Book of Mormon, I dismiss
          a priori
          much of the work
          FARMS
          scholars have done around the
          book.
          217
          Like Joseph Fielding
          McConkie and Robert Millet, I
          frown on apologetics in mis-
          sionary work; and I wish that the
          verbally aggressive polemics of
          some apologists would be
          roundly denounced by their
          peers. At the same time, my as-
          sessment of
          LDS
          apologetics is
          complicated by the realization
          that Mormonism’s anti-con-
          tention tradition (with which I
          sympathize) is bound up in the
          anti-intellectual tradition (which
          I reject). As someone who values
          the life of the mind, I look favor-
          ably on orthodox intellectuals’ desire to integrate faith and in-
          tellect, though I do not take their particular approach to that
          problem; and I believe that orthodox scholarship has not re-
          ceived due credit as an important site of intellectual activity
          within Mormonism. Notwithstanding the polemic excesses,
          and despite the paradoxically conservative nature of their mis-
          sion to defend the kingdom, apologists exercise a progressive
          influence on the way the Saints understand their faith and
          their relationship to the world—and ultimately, I believe that
          is for the good.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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