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  • Where is the Garden of Eden?

    Curious to hear thoughts. Feel free to expound.
    54
    Jackson County, MO
    46.30%
    25
    Middle East/Africa
    7.41%
    4
    Metaphorical/non-existent
    46.30%
    25
    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
    -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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    In the middle of the ocean, past home to Dharma Initiative, current scene of ongoing battle between a dude named Jacob and another guy.

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    • #3
      Did Joseph Smith answer this question?

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      • #4
        50% still believe in a literal garden of eden? I see some intellectual pondering is in order.

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        • #5
          http://national.citysearch.com/profi...rofileTab-maps

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            Those that voted Missouri, how do you reconcile the evidence that seems somewhat irrefutable that human life evolved in Africa and branched out from there, inhabiting the America's much later than even Europe and Asia?

            Is it OK for believing LDS to say the prophet hits on some things and misses on some things?

            p.s. I don't want to start a debate on this, as I'm not qualified. I'm just curious what the logic is--whether to reject science, whether there are legitimate counters to the scientific evidence, or some other reason.

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            • #7
              If you liked this restaurant, you should try The Olive Garden!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                Those that voted Missouri, how do you reconcile the evidence that seems somewhat irrefutable that human life evolved in Africa and branched out from there, inhabiting the America's much later than even Europe and Asia?

                Is it OK for believing LDS to say the prophet hits on some things and misses on some things?
                Well, the garden of eden didn't exist until 6000 BC, and the americas were populated by at least 5000 years before that, so it makes sense that god would create his garden and kill off everyone else only after humans populated the whole earth.

                Then, the command to "multiply and replenish the earth" would actually makes sense finally, since it would need to be replenished after god slaughtered everyone not in the garden. Otherwise, "replenish" is a non sequitur.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by woot View Post
                  Well, the garden of eden didn't exist until 6000 BC, and the americas were populated by at least 5000 years before that, so it makes sense that god would create his garden and kill off everyone else only after humans populated the whole earth.

                  Then, the command to "multiply and replenish the earth" would actually makes sense finally, since it would need to be replenished after god slaughtered everyone not in the garden. Otherwise, "replenish" is a non sequitur.
                  If you took a poll on when the Garden of Eden existed (either literally or figuratively when it was meant for), I doubt you'd get too many literal 4000 BC people here. But then I'm surprised to see the number of "America" voters here.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                    If you took a poll on when the Garden of Eden existed (either literally or figuratively when it was meant for), I doubt you'd get too many literal 4000 BC people here. But then I'm surprised to see the number of "America" voters here.
                    It's on I-84 just outside of Mountain Home, Idaho. My kids pee there when we travel to visit the in-laws.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • #11
                      A quick peruse of the scriptures leads me to think that the scriptural authority for this is pretty murky. Unless I missed something.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                        If you took a poll on when the Garden of Eden existed (either literally or figuratively when it was meant for), I doubt you'd get too many literal 4000 BC people here. But then I'm surprised to see the number of "America" voters here.
                        Good point. I've posted a poll as per your suggestion.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                          Those that voted Missouri, how do you reconcile the evidence that seems somewhat irrefutable that human life evolved in Africa and branched out from there, inhabiting the America's much later than even Europe and Asia?

                          Is it OK for believing LDS to say the prophet hits on some things and misses on some things?

                          p.s. I don't want to start a debate on this, as I'm not qualified. I'm just curious what the logic is--whether to reject science, whether there are legitimate counters to the scientific evidence, or some other reason.
                          This is why I posted the poll. We seem to be pretty progressive (as far as Christian religions go) with regards to evolution, but the Garden of Eden is a pretty sticky point. I'm curious as well to see how people reconcile this. The Garden of Eden being in Jackson County, at whatever date, is pretty irreconcilable with anthropologic evidence, as far as I can tell. Personally, I'd file this among the goofy personal opinions that prophets have shared, but this isn't exactly one we hide in the vaults, as can be seen from the results.
                          At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                          -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by woot View Post
                            50% still believe in a literal garden of eden? I see some intellectual pondering is in order.
                            Woot buddy, it's tough to reconcile some of your comments in other threads about not trying to be insulting and being able to separate beliefs from believer. Just sayin'.
                            "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                            -Turtle
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                              Woot buddy, it's tough to reconcile some of your comments in other threads about not trying to be insulting and being able to separate beliefs from believer. Just sayin'.
                              "Intellectual pondering" was a reference to the Oaks thread. There was no insult here.

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