Conference open thread

[hopfrog]

Watching it on ye laptop just wasn't "experience" enough, so after my last post I got dressed and drove to my old stake center -- I don't know where my current stake center is located! I was really shocked because I seem to remember on Sunday afternoon sessions there were so many people that they filled the cultural hall with rows of chairs -- today, the turn-out was so wee that the chapel wasn't filled. Is it cos it's Easter Sunday? I felt the spirit profoundly -- but I always feel a bit darkened when they speak about "the current threat to the family," as I feel they are talking, in part, about gay adoption. Am I being paranoid? Gay families are real families, and the many I know have moral standards, discipline, love, &c. Anyway, despite that little flame of gay rights advocate within me, I loved this afternoon's session. Listening to that awesome choir never fails to melt me.

[SoonerCoug]

- Delaying a family for education is poor judgment

I wonder what that GA was thinking. Does this mean that women should have babies and then put them in daycare so that they can get their education? Or does it mean that women shouldn't get their education if there is any way they could get married and pregnant?

[pellegrino]

Watching it on ye laptop just wasn't "experience" enough, so after my last post I got dressed and drove to my old stake center -- I don't know where my current stake center is located! I was really shocked because I seem to remember on Sunday afternoon sessions there were so many people that they filled the cultural hall with rows of chairs -- today, the turn-out was so wee that the chapel wasn't filled. Is it cos it's Easter Sunday? I felt the spirit profoundly -- but I always feel a bit darkened when they speak about "the current threat to the family," as I feel they are talking, in part, about gay adoption. Am I being paranoid? Gay families are real families, and the many I know have moral standards, discipline, love, &c. Anyway, despite that little flame of gay rights advocate within me, I loved this afternoon's session. Listening to that awesome choir never fails to melt me.

byutv broadcasts all the sessions and it is available on many cable and satellite systems across the nation. I think most who can watch it at home.

[Solon]

- Delaying a family for education is poor judgment

I didn't hear any of conference. Which talk was this?

[wuapinmon]

I liked Uchtdorf's Sunday morning talk. Very good.

[MarkGrace]

I was really shocked because I seem to remember on Sunday afternoon sessions there were so many people that they filled the cultural hall with rows of chairs -- today, the turn-out was so wee that the chapel wasn't filled. Is it cos it's Easter Sunday?

I think it's just because so many have access to it on their home TVs now. P'hood session at the stake center was packed last night because that's pretty much the only place you can see it.

[MarkGrace]

I didn't hear any of conference. Which talk was this?

I don't know. Some guy who is a Dr. and talked about how poor judgments he made in his life could have impacted him, including putting off starting a family to pursue education.

That's going off what I remember, anyway.

[wuapinmon]

I don't know. Some guy who is a Dr. and talked about how poor judgments he made in his life could have impacted him, including putting off starting a family to pursue education.

That's going off what I remember, anyway.

My daughters will hear a constant stream of "finish your education before having babies" from me and my wife.

[jay santos]

Some thoughts

1. Uchtdorf is becoming the star. What a stud. And a great talk Sunday morning.

2. Eyring has taken on the role of the self-righteous, stern model priesthood leader, directing his thoughts to stake high councilors and wannabe's. Yawn. Boring.

3. Holland used to be my fav, but I'm getting a weird vibe from him lately that he's trying too hard to manipulate emotion and not being natural.

4. I'm in the Primary now, and the choir's rendition of "How Could the Father Tell the World" was absolutely beautiful. I love that song.

5. Speaking of the choir, three black guys and a I believe one black girl now. I think just one year ago, we had one black guy, six months ago two black guys, now 4 total.

6. I know I'll be struck by lightning, but what's the deal with Pres. Monson's sandal bare foot cheating story? That's the most absurd story I've heard in Gen Conf for a long time.

7. Several of the 12 seemed noticeably aged. Hales and Scott, particularly. Hales was rocking the hair do, though.

8. Sat afternoon is a great place to tuck away Bednar.

9. Very interesting description of how mission calls are extended nowadays.

10. Beck the YM president's talk in priesthood was especially powerful for a non-apostle talk. Good job. He looks like a star on the rise.

11. I liked the Larry Miller piece between conference sessions on Sunday. I'm a sucker for sentiment, and I loved his quote "now we know the price of a soul--$18M." I actually got choked up on that.

[byu71]

I guess we all perceive things differently and are touched by different messages. I myself actually liked Elder Hales talk.

I didn't have a problem with any of the talks, of course I believe they are giving counsel and not commandment, so I rarely have a problem with any of the general authoritie talks. I like and enjoy 90% of them.

This particular conference was not as inspiring to me as others, but again, in the "mormon tradition", I will blame myself for not having the proper spirit.

[smokymountainrain]

I wonder what that GA was thinking. Does this mean that women should have babies and then put them in daycare so that they can get their education? Or does it mean that women shouldn't get their education if there is any way they could get married and pregnant?

The way I understood it was that it would have been poor judgement in his particular situation - I didn't hear him mention that as a sweeping generalization.

That said, I was falling in and out of a deep sleep, so I could have heard wrong.

[Moliere]

I don't know. Some guy who is a Dr. and talked about how poor judgments he made in his life could have impacted him, including putting off starting a family to pursue education.

That's going off what I remember, anyway.

Two thoughts, not directed at you:

1. I don't remember hearing anything about putting off education to start a family. I may have been asleep during that specific part of the talk but I wouldn't put it past anyone to read into a talk what someone wishes to hear.

2. Both me and my mother-in-law encouraged my wife to finish her degree prior to wanting kids. She graduated 8 months pregnant (my boys sure can swim ). An education is very important, but there are other ways to educate oneself outside of the typical four-year university. My fear is not that my daughters will forego a college education, it's that they will stop learning throughout their entire life. A mom who dropped out of college, but continues to read and study is much more prolific in my eyes than a mom who got her degree and spends her days watching soap operas and eating bon bons while her kids play video games (consider this last sentence a very big generalization but hopefully it gets my point across).

[byu71]

I don't know. Some guy who is a Dr. and talked about how poor judgments he made in his life could have impacted him, including putting off starting a family to pursue education.

That's going off what I remember, anyway.

Every so often I hear someone say how a decision they made was "poor" and they would have been better off making another decision. Sometimes, it is obvious, like doing something that gets you put in jail for 10 years.

However, a lot of times how does one know. We only know what happened because of the path we took, we don't know what would have happened had we taken the other path.

It is kind of like a football coach being chewed out for passing the ball, as if we knew for sure what would have happened if he had run the ball.

[TripletDaddy]

which talk was the one about mission calls? Are the talks up on lds.org yet?

I am curious to see how the account given this weekend stacks up with the account given to us in our ward when D-Todd came and visited us.

[DU Ute]

Every so often I hear someone say how a decision they made was "poor" and they would have been better off making another decision. Sometimes, it is obvious, like doing something that gets you put in jail for 10 years.

However, a lot of times how does one know. We only know what happened because of the path we took, we don't know what would have happened had we taken the other path.

It is kind of like a football coach being chewed out for passing the ball, as if we knew for sure what would have happened if he had run the ball.

But Unga was averaging like eight yards per carry. EIGHT YARDS PER CARRY!!!!