The Heartland Model of BOM Geography

[All-American]

It's funny you mention that. We have a serious snobbery in our genes not about money, but HOW you make it.

Really?

[Viking]

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

It's unfortunate that any of these guys (Heartland or Meso American) are making money off of believing Mormons trying to increase their faith in their religion by going on pilgrimages to supposed BOM sites. It just has a creepy feel to it.

Isn't that what good Mormons do, take church principals and make money from them? That is why we worship Covey isn't it? I know it isn't because his son was a sucky QB.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Some of the replies in his thread make me feel creepy

[SoonerCoug]

I resent it when people accuse TM of making stuff up.

[clackamascoug]

I laugh at these guys, not because I think they're theories are off, but because their BOM georgraphy is just as irrelevant to me as those proposing the limited geography/meso american model. If I had to pick a model, the Heartland one is more in line with what I think could work, but I'm deliberately ignorant in these matters.

It's unfortunate that any of these guys (Heartland or Meso American) are making money off of believing Mormons trying to increase their faith in their religion by going on pilgrimages to supposed BOM sites. It just has a creepy feel to it.

I like this response the best. It really bugs me when people need physical evidence to confirm their inner promptings.

It's like what Jacob said in last weeks episode of LOST. "Why should I have to convince people to do what is right."

[woot]

On a similar topic, does anyone know the relationship between the alpha and delta quadrants? I'm wondering how Voyager was able to get from the delta quadrant to the alpha quadrant without passing through the beta or gamma quadrants or meeting up with any klingons or romulans. Thanks in advance.

[woot]

I like this response the best. It really bugs me when people need physical evidence to confirm their inner promptings.

It's like what Jacob said in last weeks episode of LOST. "Why should I have to convince people to do what is right."

People have "inner promptings" about all sorts of evil, not to mention mutually contradictory, things. Why would would it bug you if some people use physical evidence to guide them?

I'm not keeping up with Lost, but what Jacob said is dumb. If you can't convince people, then it's probably not right. Even if you can, billions of people have been convinced of despicable things presented under the guise of being "right".

[Sleeping in EQ]

I resent it when people accuse TM of making stuff up.

Just so we're clear: I haven't accused "TM of making stuff up." To my knowledge, he has never claimed to have a photographic memory, although it has been popularly attributed to him (and even by Elder Holland, in GC).

[All-American]

On a similar topic, does anyone know the relationship between the alpha and delta quadrants? I'm wondering how Voyager was able to get from the delta quadrant to the alpha quadrant without passing through the beta or gamma quadrants or meeting up with any klingons or romulans. Thanks in advance.

What makes you so sure that it didn't?

[woot]

What makes you so sure that it didn't?

Because at one point they find themselves "on the edge of the alpha quadrant" while still being in the delta quadrant! Clearly the two are next to each other. Presumably they have to travel around the middle of the galaxy, so presumably the beta and gamma quadrants are just elsewhere on the galaxy disc. Also, they never make it clear that the worm hole next to DS9 that connects the alpha and gamma quadrants wouldn't have been a closer trip had they set out that direction. Should we presume that the astrometrics laboratory on board voyager considered that possibility before setting out for the alpha quadrant?

Maybe I should start organizing conferences about this.

[SoonerCoug]

Just so we're clear: I haven't accused "TM of making stuff up." To my knowledge, he has never claimed to have a photographic memory, although it has been popularly attributed to him (and even by Elder Holland, in GC).

I was just joking because I always get accused of making stuff up. I totally think that TM makes stuff up.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I was just joking because I always get accused of making stuff up. I totally think that TM makes stuff up.

Not sure I am following you. Are you saying:

"As a congenital liar, I can spot one a mile off."

or

"Even though I am falsely accused of lying all of the time, I am going to accuse him of lying."

[DU Ute]

Not sure I am following you. Are you saying:

"As a congenital liar, I can spot one a mile off."

or

"Even though I am falsely accused of lying all of the time, I am going to accuse him of lying."

Well done, JL

[All-American]

Because at one point they find themselves "on the edge of the alpha quadrant" while still being in the delta quadrant! Clearly the two are next to each other. Presumably they have to travel around the middle of the galaxy, so presumably the beta and gamma quadrants are just elsewhere on the galaxy disc. Also, they never make it clear that the worm hole next to DS9 that connects the alpha and gamma quadrants wouldn't have been a closer trip had they set out that direction. Should we presume that the astrometrics laboratory on board voyager considered that possibility before setting out for the alpha quadrant?

Maybe I should start organizing conferences about this.

That assumes, of course, that what the US Government has been telling us about the spacecraft is true.