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Did Jesus Marry Mary Magdalene?
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It would have been highly unusual in Judea for a man of Jesus' age to have been unmarried. Custom would suggest that he should have married years before he began his ministry.
There are any number of reasons why he might not have followed this trend-- goodness knows he spent the better part of his ministry giving custom and tradition the middle finger-- but I'd say it's more likely than not he was married.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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Can we infer from this that both he and his father don't like talking about their wives? That they want them kept out of the limelight, as it were?Originally posted by All-American View PostIt would have been highly unusual in Judea for a man of Jesus' age to have been unmarried. Custom would suggest that he should have married years before he began his ministry.
There are any number of reasons why he might not have followed this trend-- goodness knows he spent the better part of his ministry giving custom and tradition the middle finger-- but I'd say it's more likely than not he was married."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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This is in my mental file for "Things I Will Find Out Some Day, But Probably Not In This Life."Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostCan we infer from this that both he and his father don't like talking about their wives? That they want them kept out of the limelight, as it were?
I was afraid you might be self-conscious about this. I was right. Sorry, I was just trying to give you a chance to put an end to all the rumors.Originally posted by YOhio View PostI knew you weren't prepared for the answer I gave you. I regret answering the question.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
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--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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We can infer from this that the writers of the scriptures don't like talking about their wives. What we can infer from THIS is all the more interesting.Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostCan we infer from this that both he and his father don't like talking about their wives? That they want them kept out of the limelight, as it were?τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν
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If you've only heard of laughter, you might be a Pharisee.
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That's what I learned from all the HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL type books I read on my mission. Not exactly the best reference sources, I know, but stil....Originally posted by Solon View PostAdd in the Holy Virgin, and it's like an Italian wedding with all those "Marias" running around.
I think there's pretty good evidence for a medieval tradition in southern France that Mary M. was married to Jesus. Traditionally, she ended up in southern France. Her relics are in a little town near Aix-en-Provence called St. Maximin.
They also posit that some of the cathedrals dedicated to a Mary are actually dedicated not to the Virgin Mary but to the Magdalene. Is there evidence for that or is it just speculation?Kids in general these days seem more socially retarded...
None of them date. They hang out. They text. They sit in the same car or room and don't say a word...they text. Then, they go home and whack off to internet porn.
I think that's the sad truth about why these kids are retards.
--Portland Ute
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We spend a lot of time trying to discover if something is factual or not, but sometimes the more interesting question is how belief in a thing influences people's decisions - whether or not that event actually occurred. The Baigent-Lee stuff is a little sensationalist, but it's not such a hangup if you just consider that people have believed it's true.Originally posted by Green Lantern View PostThat's what I learned from all the HOLY BLOOD, HOLY GRAIL type books I read on my mission. Not exactly the best reference sources, I know, but stil....
They also posit that some of the cathedrals dedicated to a Mary are actually dedicated not to the Virgin Mary but to the Magdalene. Is there evidence for that or is it just speculation?
The problem with "Holy Blood Holy Grail" is that they spend all this time connecting these French rulers with Jesus, but then disclaim any divinity on Jesus' part. So, the problem becomes, "why is it a big deal to be descended from an ordinary criminal who hoaxed the world? If Jesus was just a clever huckster, who would want to claim that "holy blood?" Dan Brown got around this problem by bringing in the Divine Mother and writing Jesus mostly out of the problem altogether. An easier interpretation, though, would be to claim that Jesus was both divine and had children - hardly a stretch in Greco-Roman myth. I think there's pretty good evidence that the "long-haired" Merovingian kings claimed descent from God/Jesus. I also think it's arguable that Joseph Smith believed in literal descendants of Jesus.
I don't know about the dedication-to-Mary thing, but there are lots of cathedrals dedicated to "La Madeleine" throughout southern France.Last edited by Solon; 01-26-2010, 01:02 PM."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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That's my biggest problem with those books as well! This one called BLOODLINE OF THE HOLY GRAIL claims to have unprecedented access to all of these ancient family histories so they can trace all these royal lineages back to Jesus. Then they spend all this time explaining how Jesus faked the crucifixion and wasn't really divine. Then who gives a crap? I would type more but I'm starting to think that you and I have had this exact conversation some time before. It all sounds very familiar.Originally posted by Solon View PostThe problem with "Holy Blood Holy Grail" is that they spend all this time connecting these French rulers with Jesus, but then disclaim any divinity on Jesus' part. So, the problem becomes, "why is it a big deal to be descended from an ordinary criminal who hoaxed the world? If Jesus was just a clever huckster, who would want to claim that "holy blood?" Dan Brown got around this problem by bringing in the Divine Mother and writing Jesus mostly out of the problem altogether. An easier interpretation, though, would be to claim that Jesus was both divine and had children - hardly a stretch in Greco-Roman myth. I think there's pretty good evidence that the "long-haired" Merovingian kings claimed descent from God/Jesus. I also think it's arguable that Joseph Smith believed in literal descendants of Jesus.
.Kids in general these days seem more socially retarded...
None of them date. They hang out. They text. They sit in the same car or room and don't say a word...they text. Then, they go home and whack off to internet porn.
I think that's the sad truth about why these kids are retards.
--Portland Ute
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I thought Magdalene was his wife based on JET in Jesus the Christ saying he had a more intimate relationship with her than anyone else. Talmage also said that she was not the women taken in adultery that would not make sense for his wife to have been an adulteress.
Since he was baptized I would say he would of had to of been married to fulfill all righteousness. That is just something they don't want to talk about.
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