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  • il Padrino Ute
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 19161

    #16
    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Life is always cheap; death is free.
    If death was free, I'd never have gone into the funeral business.
    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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    • wuapinmon
      Soul Plumber
      • Dec 2008
      • 30711

      #17
      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
      If death were free, I'd never have gone into the funeral business.
      The dead pay nothing. Funerals are for the living. The point of my last comment is that the current distancing from dead in our society is but a front. It finds everyone and life is always cheap....there's always someone willing to take your life.
      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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      • Non Sequitur
        Where did I put my bodkin
        • Nov 2008
        • 5773

        #18
        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
        The dead pay nothing. Funerals are for the living. The point of my last comment is that the current distancing from dead in our society is but a front. It finds everyone and life is always cheap....there's always someone willing to take your life.
        You're speaking in riddles again. Have you been channeling TooBlue?
        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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        • Indy Coug
          Heartless Bastard
          • Dec 2008
          • 18747

          #19
          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
          Would you rather be famous and rich and applauded for everything you do in life by people who are feigning so as not to offend you and fade into obscurity when you die, or would you rather be ignored in life and have your genius recognized after your death, bringing you eternal fame?
          Neither really has that much allure to me.
          Everything in life is an approximation.

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          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
            Time to camp
            • Nov 2008
            • 26082

            #20
            I just want a statue of me erected in front of a building. Before or after death, if it was before I could post pictures on CUF of me by my statue. So I guess I lean to before I die.
            Get confident, stupid
            -landpoke

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            • ERCougar
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 10978

              #21
              I've always been fascinated by the thirst for fame that some have. I really don't get it. I don't want fame during or after my life. I've done enough dumb stuff in my life that I don't want to come under the microscope when I'm dead (see Braveheart quote above), and I sure don't want to deal with the hassles of fame during my life. I'm with IPU--just give me a quiet nice life and I'll be happy.
              At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
              -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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              • Commando
                Explosivo
                • Feb 2009
                • 20748

                #22
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                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • Fiyero
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5266

                  #23
                  Who is to say that fame amongst the dead is eternal? "Hey, you're that guy that wrote Cymbeline 8800 years ago, well done. Have you met Josephus yet? I finally got to have lunch with him, after initially placing 758,232nd on his waiting list...."

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                  • Non Sequitur
                    Where did I put my bodkin
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5773

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Commando View Post
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                    Very apropos. Wuap is not only mysterious and inscrutable, but his knowledge will bite your face off. He truly IS El Tigre Chino!!
                    "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                    • Solon
                      Lost in the flood
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5747

                      #25
                      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                      Would you rather be famous and rich and applauded for everything you do in life by people who are feigning so as not to offend you and fade into obscurity when you die, or would you rather be ignored in life and have your genius recognized after your death, bringing you eternal fame?
                      kleos. Life is fleeting. Death is inevitable. You might as well leave a reputation of undying glory.

                      That's immortality.
                      "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                      -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                      • wuapinmon
                        Soul Plumber
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 30711

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Solon View Post
                        kleos. Life is fleeting. Death is inevitable. You might as well leave a reputation of undying glory.

                        That's immortality.
                        I could've bet $1 million that the board Classicist would favor this approach.

                        Caesar crying about not having done even half of what Alexander had done by his age.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • Solon
                          Lost in the flood
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5747

                          #27
                          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          I could've bet $1 million that the board Classicist would favor this approach.

                          Caesar crying about not having done even half of what Alexander had done by his age.
                          You could've bet $100 million and been safe.
                          "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                          -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                          • CardiacCoug
                            вот так штука
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11013

                            #28
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            Would you rather be famous and rich and applauded for everything you do in life by people who are feigning so as not to offend you and fade into obscurity when you die, or would you rather be ignored in life and have your genius recognized after your death, bringing you eternal fame?
                            I think this is a pretty interesting question because an atheist could see it either way:

                            Better to be famous and rich now because there is nothing after death.

                            OR

                            Better to have eternal fame because that is the only type of immortality that can be achieved.

                            Like ER, I don't really care for either option -- I just want to achieve some happiness and security for my family and help a few people along the way.

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #29
                              Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                              I think this is a pretty interesting question because an atheist could see it either way:

                              Better to be famous and rich now because there is nothing after death.

                              OR

                              Better to have eternal fame because that is the only type of immortality that can be achieved.

                              Like ER, I don't really care for either option -- I just want to achieve some happiness and security for my family and help a few people along the way.
                              How much does our Mormon heritage influence this fairly common opinion on the board?
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • CardiacCoug
                                вот так штука
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11013

                                #30
                                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                How much does our Mormon heritage influence this fairly common opinion on the board?
                                I think Mormon culture probably influences us to be less individualistic and more community-oriented.

                                Also, the goals of

                                1. achieving fame and wealth, and

                                2. building/strengthening a family (which Mormons often value)

                                while not mutually exclusive are for the most part in conflict with each other.

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