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  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #1

    Which is better?

    Would you rather be famous and rich and applauded for everything you do in life by people who are feigning so as not to offend you and fade into obscurity when you die, or would you rather be ignored in life and have your genius recognized after your death, bringing you eternal fame?
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
  • Surfah
    Where's Wallace?
    • Nov 2008
    • 33726

    #2
    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Would you rather be famous and rich and applauded for everything you do in life by people who are feigning so as not to offend you and fade into obscurity when you die, or would you rather be ignored in life and have your genius recognized after your death, bringing you eternal fame?
    The former without hesitation.
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    • Non Sequitur
      Where did I put my bodkin
      • Nov 2008
      • 5773

      #3
      Who cares about eternal fame? You're dead. You can't enjoy it.
      "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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      • il Padrino Ute
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 19161

        #4
        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
        Would you rather be famous and rich and applauded for everything you do in life by people who are feigning so as not to offend you and fade into obscurity when you die, or would you rather be ignored in life and have your genius recognized after your death, bringing you eternal fame?
        Neither. I'd rather not be bothered while I'm living and left alone after death.
        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


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        • FN Phat
          I ♥ gateway sex
          • Feb 2009
          • 8691

          #5
          Show me the money. I will collect my eternal reward by others not of this world.
          I'm your huckleberry.


          "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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          • wuapinmon
            Soul Plumber
            • Dec 2008
            • 30711

            #6
            Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
            Who cares about eternal fame? You're dead. You can't enjoy it.
            Apparently you haven't retained what you've read of the Classics or Shakespeare.

            I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is a question that has weighed on people's minds for millenia.
            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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            • FN Phat
              I ♥ gateway sex
              • Feb 2009
              • 8691

              #7
              What is your preference, senor wuap?
              I'm your huckleberry.


              "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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              • Non Sequitur
                Where did I put my bodkin
                • Nov 2008
                • 5773

                #8
                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                Apparently you haven't retained what you've read of the Classics or Shakespeare.

                I'm not saying you're wrong, but this is a question that has weighed on people's minds for millenia.
                It's not like Shakespeare opted for temporal obscurity. He was out their hustling, trying to become rich and famous. That he was more appreciated after his death was not his design.
                "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                • JohnnyLingo
                  La Naranja
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 3976

                  #9
                  Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                  Neither. I'd rather not be bothered while I'm living and left alone after death.
                  Yep. Who wants fame? No thanks.

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FN Phat View Post
                    What is your preference, senor wuap?
                    I don't want to taint the class's results.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                      It's not like Shakespeare opted for temporal obscurity. He was out their hustling, trying to become rich and famous. That he was more appreciated after his death was not his design.
                      I'm talking about the messages in his work, not the man. His oeuvre.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • Non Sequitur
                        Where did I put my bodkin
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 5773

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        I'm talking about the messages in his work, not the man. His oeuvre.
                        That doesn't seem to have much to do with your original question. His themes dealt with classics and histories, but that was mostly because those were the popular genres of the day.
                        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                          That doesn't seem to have much to do with your original question. His themes dealt with classics and histories, but that was mostly because those were the popular genres of the day.
                          Think of the speech in Braveheart. "Once more into the breach;" "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones;" ""Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders that I yet have heard, it seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come."
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • Non Sequitur
                            Where did I put my bodkin
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 5773

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            Think of the speech in Braveheart. "Once more into the breach;" "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones;" ""Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders that I yet have heard, it seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come."
                            That speech was given to a bunch of impoverished clansmen in a time when life and death were cheap. You give that speech now to bunch a guys from Alpine Utah with their boats and SUV's and season ski passes and see how valiant they are.
                            "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                              That speech was given to a bunch of impoverished clansmen in a time when life and death were cheap. You give that speech now to bunch a guys from Alpine Utah with their boats and SUV's and season ski passes and see how valiant they are.
                              Life is always cheap; death is free.
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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