Elder Holland's Book of Mormon talk

[DrumNFeather]

Amen and amen. This is why I hate GC. For every talk like Holland's there are 500 like Cook's, example whoever this guy talking now is.

It takes all kinds to speak in conference...

[scottie]

I don't believe I see anyone here coming even close to suggesting such a thing.

Curious why you made that statement; did you get that from my post?

[RockyBalboa]

Does near yelling and passion make it more believable? If someone else believes in something, should that have any impact on what you believe?

We get plenty of it from the apostates on here, so it would seem to have it's desired effect.

[byu71]

I have no problem with Elder Hollands impassioned defense of the BOM. My problem is with those who will use the talk to point to me and others who might question something, as "those in the spacious buildings." While I don't think this is what President Holland meant, I have always seem him as a caring and kind person, there will be those who will take the talk to mean, "if you don't believe in the BOM, you suck." I saw one person on CB saying, he told it like Bruce R. did. I wasn't a fan of how Bruce R. told it.

[Viking]

Tell me what he said.

[byu71]

Tell me what he said.

He said you are hanging out in the tall spacious building and you suck.

[Viking]

He said you are hanging out in the tall spacious building and you suck.

I think I'm more in the mist of darkness than in a building. Tell him he sucks, with love.

[SloanHater]

Tell me what he said.

THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE. I KNOW IT IS TRUE. WHY WOULD THE PROPHET JOSEPH AND HIS BROTHER DIE FOR A BOOK THAT WASN'T TRUE.

I was not a fan of the talk.

[Portland Ute]

THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE. I KNOW IT IS TRUE. WHY WOULD THE PROPHET JOSEPH AND HIS BROTHER DIE FOR A BOOK THAT WASN'T TRUE.

I was not a fan of the talk.

What would you have preferred to hear?

[Viking]

THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE. I KNOW IT IS TRUE. WHY WOULD THE PROPHET JOSEPH AND HIS BROTHER DIE FOR A BOOK THAT WASN'T TRUE.

I was not a fan of the talk.

That's sort of a crappy argument. Jim Jones died and killed hundreds. Why else would he do that if his message were not true?

I like this presentation.

http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/Janelle-20011-piattelli-palmarini-presentation-Round-Table-Panel-Discussion-psychology-MistakesAmerican-Academy-Appellate-Lawyers-covera-as-Entertainment-ppt-powerpoint/

[SloanHater]

What would you have preferred to hear?

I would have preferred to hear how an apostle of the church approaches studying a book that he has probably read hundreds of times.

[Surfah]

I would have preferred to hear how an apostle of the church approaches studying a book that he has probably read hundreds of times.

He did. He reads. He ponders. He prays.

[Art Vandelay]

I can certainly understand why his presentation might offend, but for me personally, the apostles are so mild mannered, so even tempered, that a little passion now an again is alright.

If this forum has taught me anything it is that some, if not many will be offended by anything that is said, or not said over the conference center pulpit. I'm sure some were bothered by President Eyrings nose rubbing last night during the priesthood session.

I will admit when the smart men and women of CUF agree with me I like the feeling of validation I receive. However, I think the value of any remark, comment, or talk is the impact it has on my individually. The Book of Mormon has been and still is a huge basis of my testimony. Elder Holland's comments were spoken with passion and in my opinion his unwavering belief in the truth of that which he spoke of. His talk seemed to speak to my soul and for that I'm grateful.

I look forward to reading and relistening to his remarks. I have a feeling this may join into my personal Pantheon of GC talks.

[Art Vandelay]

I would have preferred to hear how an apostle of the church approaches studying a book that he has probably read hundreds of times.

Elder Bednar spoke of this soon after he was called into the 12. If I recall correctly it was a CES fireside (I'm too lazy to do an lds.org search). I was impressed and inspired by the effort he puts into his personal scripture study.

[UtahDan]

If this forum has taught me anything it is that some, if not many will be offended by anything that is said, or not said over the conference center pulpit. I'm sure some were bothered by President Eyrings nose rubbing last night during the priesthood session.

I will admit when the smart men and women of CUF agree with me I like the feeling of validation I receive. However, I think the value of any remark, comment, or talk is the impact it has on my individually. The Book of Mormon has been and still is a huge basis of my testimony. Elder Holland's comments were spoken with passion and in my opinion his unwavering belief in the truth of that which he spoke of. His talk seemed to speak to my soul and for that I'm grateful.

I look forward to reading and relistening to his remarks. I have a feeling this may join into my personal Pantheon of GC talks.

I'm not sure any here took offense. I'm not sure that is what anyone really said. Some disagreed with the approach (I'm not among them) but that is different from being offended.