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  • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
    I'm confused. So gay sex is OK (because it's legal), but gay marriage is immoral and shouldn't be legalized?

    That's what he was saying? This will be big news.
    Why couldn't the immorality he was referring to simply be gay marriage? I interpreted it as they can legalize it if they want to, but it will still be immoral.

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    • Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
      What I heard was that God doesn't make gay people but if you think you are gay you still have the power to overcome your gayness. I may have just heard it wrong.
      That is how I heard it too. He said god would not give you an impulse you could not control or overcome. I don't think BKP is quite as simple as some of you seem to think.
      Last edited by creekster; 10-03-2010, 02:00 PM.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • Isn't it basically doctrine in the church now that being gay is not a sin, but gay relations is? If his talk was implying being gay is a sin, it would not have passed the collaboration.

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        • Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
          This just in: sleepovers are evil.
          Yes they are. Verboten at our house.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Yes they are. Verboten at our house.
            What's this?

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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Yes they are. Verboten at our house.
              This is because nothing good happens at night.

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              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                Why couldn't the immorality he was referring to simply be gay marriage? I interpreted it as they can legalize it if they want to, but it will still be immoral.
                Which part is immoral, the gay acts, or the gay marriage?

                Why don't we go all the way and criminalize all LDS immorality, if that's the way we are thinking about these things? Let's outlaw green tea and R-rated movies.

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                • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                  Which part is immoral, the gay acts, or the gay marriage?

                  Why don't we go all the way and criminalize all LDS immorality, if that's the way we are thinking about these things? Let's outlaw green tea and R-rated movies.
                  Isn't that the plan we voted for as spirits?
                  Get confident, stupid
                  -landpoke

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                  • that talk has now convinced my wife that I should listen to her when she thinks we should get rid of cable...

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                    • Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                      Which part is immoral, the gay acts, or the gay marriage?

                      Why don't we go all the way and criminalize all LDS immorality, if that's the way we are thinking about these things? Let's outlaw green tea and R-rated movies.
                      I wonder (bracketing completely for the moment whether he is right, etc.) whether this will be the headline from this conference. Whether we are solidifying our image as the anti-gay church.

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                      • Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                        What's this?
                        We don't hold sleepovers nor do we allow our kids to go to sleepovers. Two main reasons:

                        1) We were kids once and we know what happens at sleepovers.

                        2) While we would be OK with sleepovers here and at some other homes, we avoid the awkward situations where we have to say "You can't sleepover there because we don't trust the parents".

                        As a substitute, we allow "late nights". Stay up and have fun until midnight or so and then we will come and get you. Our kids have been fine with it.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • My conference prediction: In the future will we have Spanish/English sessions.

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            We don't hold sleepovers nor do we allow our kids to go to sleepovers. Two main reasons:

                            1) We were kids once and we know what happens at sleepovers.

                            2) While we would be OK with sleepovers here and at some other homes, we avoid the awkward situations where we have to say "You can't sleepover there because we don't trust the parents".

                            As a substitute, we allow "late nights". Stay up and have fun until midnight or so and then we will come and get you. Our kids have been fine with it.
                            Ah. Issues I haven't had to think through yet. But that all makes sense.

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              We don't hold sleepovers nor do we allow our kids to go to sleepovers. Two main reasons:

                              1) We were kids once and we know what happens at sleepovers.

                              2) While we would be OK with sleepovers here and at some other homes, we avoid the awkward situations where we have to say "You can't sleepover there because we don't trust the parents".

                              As a substitute, we allow "late nights". Stay up and have fun until midnight or so and then we will come and get you. Our kids have been fine with it.
                              Sounds like a good policy -- I agree.

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                We don't hold sleepovers nor do we allow our kids to go to sleepovers. Two main reasons:

                                1) We were kids once and we know what happens at sleepovers.

                                2) While we would be OK with sleepovers here and at some other homes, we avoid the awkward situations where we have to say "You can't sleepover there because we don't trust the parents".

                                As a substitute, we allow "late nights". Stay up and have fun until midnight or so and then we will come and get you. Our kids have been fine with it.
                                Can you speak on this a bit more?

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