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  • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    Burn! I'm glad you're relying on games that came out in 2006 to bolster the XBox. Since the XBox has had a total of five exclusives rated above 85 on metacritic that have come out since 2008 and the PS3 has had 13, I guess you were kind of forced into that argument. (see below) Thanks for finally clearing up that the XBox 360 is a more capable machine than the PS2, I was a little confused about that. I'm going to go out on a limb and that the PS2 kicked the XBox's ass in 2000 and 2001. Unfortunately, it's totally irrelevant to the question in 2010 of which console to buy.

    I noticed in your previous post that you didn't address my point about the XBox's shittier exclusive list. I hate to parrot DDD's line, but as usual when it comes to the actual games, there's not much to talk about. You're not going to get much of an argument from me that XBox Live is better than PSN and MS has established a foothold by having the superior interface and getting groups of friends that are all on the same system. I clearly understand that even though I poke fun at the added utility

    But that doesn't mean the 360 is the superior gaming system.

    Just consider the exclusives from 2008 on that have received a rating of 85 or higher on metacritic.com (and I'm only counting true exclusives, you can buy most of the XBox console exclusives on the PC, I also only included significant downloadable games, sorry Critter Crunch didn't make the list for the PS3 and Geometry Wars didn't make it for the XBox 360, and FTR, the PS3 had four I didn't include and the 360 had five):

    XBox 360:

    Gears of War 2 93
    Forza Motorsport 3 92
    Fable 2 89
    Shadow Complex (down-loadable game) 88
    Trials HD (another down-loadable game) 86

    PS3:
    Metal Gear Solid 4 94
    Uncharted 2 96
    Little Big Planet 95
    God of War 3 93
    Killzone 2 91
    Demon's Souls 89
    MLB the Show 09 & 10 (out of fairness, I'm only counting this once) 90
    Wipeout HD Fury 89 (down-loadable game)
    Heavy Rain 87
    Resistance 2 87
    Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time 87
    Valkyrie Chronicles 86
    InFAMOUS 85

    Final tally: PS3 13, XBox 5. Sony was the publisher of all but two of its exclusives rated at 85 or above between 2008 and now.

    I bought a PS2 in 2002 instead of an XBox. The reason why was the PS2 had more games, the XBox had Halo and that was about it. Fast forward to September 2009, I was faced with the same issue: do I buy an XBox 360 (with all of its accompanying hardware issues) or do I buy a PS3, I had no dog in the fight at this point although I do admit that having the blu-ray player made it easier to get my wife to sign off on it. Here's the criteria I looked at:

    Price: The middle of the road 360 was still available at this point (MS should never have phased this model out) for $250, the PS3 was $300. But wait, to enable wifi, I had to buy the wireless unit from MS which ran about $100. The effective price for the MS was $350, there's no way in hell I'm dragging an ethernet cable from router to my living room, wifi was a must.

    Features and capability: The PS3 has a blu-ray player. At the time, you could buy a player for $150. Personally, I didn't really care that much about having a blu-ray player. However, the blu-ray drive enables the PS3 to have more powerful games (that and a better processor). In the future, the PS3 can play both 3D movies and 3D games. While the 360 was long in tooth, the PS3, at worst, was in the middle of its cycle.

    Games: I already addressed this above and it speaks for itself. Plain and simply put, the PS3 is now curb stomping the 360. This is in large measure due to the fact that Sony has incredible first party developers. A big portion of the games I played on the PS2 were published by Sony. In addition, a huge portion of the PS1 library is available for download.

    I had heard multiple times that XBox Live was superior to PSN, I had even heard that some multiplatform games work better on the 360. However, there was no effing way I was going to pay more money for a console that was inferior both in hardware specs, future capability and amount of quality content. A better online interface simply wasn't enough to make up for these shortcomings. If I want to play a game online, the PSN still allows me to do that.
    thank you, for doing what I was to lazy to do. I may reference you in every console argument I ever get in from now on.

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    • Originally posted by 1337coug View Post
      thank you, for doing what I was to lazy to do. I may reference you in every console argument I ever get in from now on.
      Make sure you reference your headphone argument as well. I think that was the defining factor in this argument.
      Last edited by Hot Lunch; 04-12-2010, 06:11 PM.
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        • Originally posted by camleish View Post
          Leave me be, I'm holding a fanboy accountable!

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          • Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
            I'll assume you didn't see my earlier question: do you own an Xbox 360?
            I already see where you're going with this one and you can just stop. I'll make your argument for you. You have both consoles and you hardly play the PS3. You've also demonstrated that you're a big FPS fan. The FPS game experience has always been largely predicated on the online gaming quality. Since XBL is the better online interface, you play your games on the XBox. Given all of this, this is why you devote so much time to the XBox as opposed to the PS3. In addition, as was pointed out in the other thread from a few months ago, many people have purchased an XBox and play on the XBox because their friends are on it. It's not groundbreaking news to me that a FPS fan whose friends are on the XBL also chooses to devote his gaming time to the XBox.

            The FPS genre is not insignificant, in fact it's the most significant segment of the industry. The XBox has established itself in this genre due to the exclusivity of the Halo series.

            But the sales figures in the other genres indicate that their fans still stick with Sony. Your personal experience with the two consoles is obviously anecdotal, the sales figures are not. My little anecdotal nugget is that you felt the need to buy a PS3, yet I've felt little desire to buy a 360 (just to answer your original question). I don't play FPS games (even though I own a couple, I keep on playing other types of games- sports, action, etc), you do. Therefore you devote more time to the 360, again this is not surprising.
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            • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
              Make sure you reference your headphone argument as well. I think that was the defining factor in this argument.
              lol.

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              • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                I already see where you're going with this one and you can just stop. I'll make your argument for you. You have both consoles and you hardly play the PS3. You've also demonstrated that you're a big FPS fan. The FPS game experience has always been largely predicated on the online gaming quality. Since XBL is the better online interface, you play your games on the XBox. Given all of this, this is why you devote so much time to the XBox as opposed to the PS3. In addition, as was pointed out in the other thread from a few months ago, many people have purchased an XBox and play on the XBox because their friends are on it. It's not groundbreaking news to me that a FPS fan whose friends are on the XBL also chooses to devote his gaming time to the XBox.

                The FPS genre is not insignificant, in fact it's the most significant segment of the industry. The XBox has established itself in this genre due to the exclusivity of the Halo series.

                But the sales figures in the other genres indicate that their fans still stick with Sony. Your personal experience with the two consoles is obviously anecdotal, the sales figures are not. My little anecdotal nugget is that you felt the need to buy a PS3, yet I've felt little desire to buy a 360 (just to answer your original question). I don't play FPS games (even though I own a couple, I keep on playing other types of games- sports, action, etc), you do. Therefore you devote more time to the 360, again this is not surprising.
                We're making progress. You've picked your pony, and you feel you have to dogmatically back it. As you've acknowledged, I own both horses. I'm better able to comment on which is superior.

                Sales data doesnt favor the PS3 I'm afraid. You're well aware the Xbox 360 has sold more than 7 million more units than the PS3. As of this time last year, Xbox Live had generated over a billion dollars in revenue for MSFT. PSN less than $200 mill. PSN has been live for 40% of the time that Xbox Live has been, and has failed to break 20% of the revenue generated by Live. Take into consideration that Sony has had the benefit of being able to straight copy all of the original and creative concepts that Xbox has pioneered. Sony doesn't even know how to play catch-up correctly.

                More stats. Wii owns 47% of the total revenue generated this console generated, Xbox 35%, and the PS3 trailing with a paltry 18%. Also, you'd think with the strong year on '09 that PS3 had relative to the Xbox 360 that we would be at the point where the PS3 is out-selling the Xbox 360 month over month. February NPDs below:

                NDS - 613,200
                Xbox 360 - 422,000
                Wii - 397,900
                PS3 - 360,100
                PSP - 133,400
                PS2 - 101,900

                People are still buying the Xbox more rapidly than the PS3. The reason for this is the value proposition (even with a paid subscription service) is stronger on the Xbox 360. MSFT is still reaping the benefits of first-mover advantage when it comes to the cross-platform games as well. Almost every game that is released on both consoles looks and runs better on the 360. 3rd party developers focus on 360 compatibility in development, and can you blame them? Games sell almost twice as much on the MSFT console than they do on the PS3, and they have 7 million more potential customers to sell to on the 360.

                Uncharted 2 was the best game released last year that I played. Sadly, there hasn't been much else to really tear me away from the fun to be had on my Xbox. I'll get around to God of War 2 and 3 and Heavy Rain over the course of the next year, and sometime get around to finishing inFamous.

                Prior to buying my PS3, I operated under the bizarre mindset that I was duty bound to stick to one console. Once I was able to cast off that paradigm, I found a fair measure of enjoyment on the other console. I hope you one day are able to achieve this same state of transcendentalism. The grass may not be greener in your eyes, but atleast you'll know for sure.
                Last edited by Colly Wolly; 04-13-2010, 04:03 PM.

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                • We will interrupt your current pissing match for the following announcement:

                  I am off the the man cave to kick some ass. If any XBoxers are out there who want to play, I will be on until about 11:00. Ciao.
                  Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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                  • Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                    We will interrupt your current pissing match for the following announcement:



                    Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
                    JIC, I saw you on last night. I only had a couple of games before I had to go pick up friend of mine who was dropping his car off at a mechanic and was going to invite you to a game if you were still there when I got back. You had just logged off when I got back online. I will probably play again on Wednesday night if anyone is interested.
                    "Take it to the Bank"

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                    • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                      JIC, I saw you on last night. I only had a couple of games before I had to go pick up friend of mine who was dropping his car off at a mechanic and was going to invite you to a game if you were still there when I got back. You had just logged off when I got back online. I will probably play again on Wednesday night if anyone is interested.
                      Just so you know its 2010 and you can text each other. The PS3 guys have this figured out when we get on we shoot a quick text to let the others know its game time.
                      *Banned*

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                      • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        Just so you know its 2010 and you can text each other. The PS3 guys have this figured out when we get on we shoot a quick text sext to let the others know its game time.
                        I fixed it for you to let them know how you guys really work.
                        "Take it to the Bank"

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                        • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Just so you know its 2010 and you can text each other. The PS3 guys have this figured out when we get on we shoot a quick text to let the others know its game time.
                          or if you were any good at halo and used bungie.net to make sure you were still top ranked then you can still use their site to pull up your friends list to see who is online while you check your gmail or for the ps3 people your hotmale account

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                          • Originally posted by FlynHawaiian30 View Post
                            or if you were any good at halo and used bungie.net to make sure you were still top ranked then you can still use their site to pull up your friends list to see who is online while you check your gmail or for the ps3 people your hotmale account
                            Your post reminded me of the gamertag of the brother of one of the Cuffers (I don't remember which one): malebag. I think his clan tag was [big]. Very funny.
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                            • malebag is a good gamertag and a good dude. He is a Cuffers bro-in-law. I remember when he first came into the lobby I busted up laughing.
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                              • Originally posted by Lost_Student View Post
                                Your post reminded me of the gamertag of the brother of one of the Cuffers (I don't remember which one): malebag. I think his clan tag was [big]. Very funny.
                                Malebag would be my little bro in law. Good kid and great gammertag.
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