Breaking Bad

[MarkGrace]

The IMDB link I posted says he's the "creator" of it. I thought that was different than producer?

Well maybe I'm off. I know he was involved as creator because the character comes from his universe and he helped come up with the idea for the show, but my understanding was that the head writer / runner of the show (what Gilligan was to BB) is going to be the guy who writes the Saul character for BB. I could be wrong, but from what I've read it doesn't seem like it will be his show the was BB was.

[scottie]

Again, calling this a Gilligan project is like saying the most recent Superman movie was a Nolan joint. Plenty of people did say that, it just wasn't accurate and wasn't the right expectation. Producer means something to the direction of the project, but in most instances not a ton.

The IMDB link I posted says he's the "creator" of it. I thought that was different than producer?

[MarkGrace]

I think it's been discussed a little bit here, but I don't give Better Call Saul much of a chance. Of course I want more Vince Gilligan projects, but I don't think a BB spin-off is going to work very well; we've done BB, give us something new, Vince!

Again, calling this a Gilligan project is like saying the most recent Superman movie was a Nolan joint. Plenty of people did say that, it just wasn't accurate and wasn't the right expectation. Producer means something to the direction of the project, but in most instances not a ton.

[scottie]

I think it's been discussed a little bit here, but I don't give Better Call Saul much of a chance. Of course I want more Vince Gilligan projects, but I don't think a BB spin-off is going to work very well; we've done BB, give us something new, Vince!

[SandYFan]

You are jaded.

If it is realism you are after, Jesse committing suicide at this point would be the most probable outcome.

If Jesse drove into a tree 5 minutes after we saw him last, I wouldn't be surprised.

And if Brock were dead, I believe he would.

But he's got someone else to care about and help.

[ERCougar]

Wasn't it discussed above?

I thought it was great. I am not sure it expresses lack of regret, but it was a great moment in the series.

Yeah, sort of. People mentioned the exchange, but to me that single line captures it all. "Being alive" is what Walt discovered in the first season and what carried him through the next four. I love Thoreau. Maybe that's why I pulled for Walt.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Season 3 is less than a year from most of season 5. Maybe I'm jaded, but if this shows us anything it's that nobody ever breaks good.

You are jaded.

If it is realism you are after, Jesse committing suicide at this point would be the most probable outcome.

[Jeff Lebowski]

No more thoughts on the 'I was alive' line? To me, it was the most poignant of the episode. He finally acknowledges why he did it all. It recalls the 'rear entry' scene from the first season. A life of quiet desperation is not worth living--Walt knows this intimately and he goes to his grave without regret, at least in this respect.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this wouldn't resonate with a bunch of Mormons.

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Wasn't it discussed above?

I thought it was great. I am not sure it expresses lack of regret, but it was a great moment in the series.

[SandYFan]

No more thoughts on the 'I was alive' line? To me, it was the most poignant of the episode. He finally acknowledges why he did it all. It recalls the 'rear entry' scene from the first season. A life of quiet desperation is not worth living--Walt knows this intimately and he goes to his grave without regret, at least in this respect.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this wouldn't resonate with a bunch of Mormons.

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I thought that conversation was fantastic. I do wonder if he'd have been satisfied with his life if he hadn't been working at the car wash. It's one thing to have a job as a teacher at a high school, but it's another to wash your student's cars. That was the most emasculating thing about his life, pre-drug lord, IMO.

But whatever was going on in his life before then, he liked being the one who knocks. He liked being involved in high-pressure situations and fighting for his life. It's relatable.

[The_Douger]

It resonated with me.

I was glad to see him finally admit what it was all about. His life had been filled with disappointment, rejection, and unfulfilled dreams. He went out on his terms, doing what made him feel best. Morality of his decisions aside, I can respect that.

[ERCougar]

No more thoughts on the 'I was alive' line? To me, it was the most poignant of the episode. He finally acknowledges why he did it all. It recalls the 'rear entry' scene from the first season. A life of quiet desperation is not worth living--Walt knows this intimately and he goes to his grave without regret, at least in this respect.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this wouldn't resonate with a bunch of Mormons.

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[Non Sequitur]

When was that, season 3? Walt tried to drag Jesse back into the game in season 5 and Jesse was having none of it. He's not the same kid that will allow himself to be dragged around by anyone.

Season 3 is less than a year from most of season 5. Maybe I'm jaded, but if BB shows us anything it's that nobody ever breaks good.

[MarkGrace]

I don't know what major roles he will land, but I predict a few cameo appearances in film to deliver a variation of his catch phrase (or to have that line said directly to him). Speaking of which, did we ever figure out what the huge "bitch" was that he pimped before this season? I was totally expecting a "freedom, bitch!" as he drove through the gate the other night, and was somewhat disappointed when nary a bitch was offered.

It was the one when Walt got arrested. I remember saying it didn't live up to the hype.

Also, his first movie doesn't look promising, though it does look like he could have driven straight out of Breaking Bad in that last scene and right into this movie.

[falafel]

When Jesse is in the hospital bed and Walt asks him to come back into the business, Jesse gets pissed and let's Walt know that it's over, no amount of money could ever get him back. Walt is barely out the door when Jesse calls Walt and let's him know he's back in. It's easy to say that Walt drags Jesse around, but Jesse has shown repeatably that he's more than willing to be dragged around.

When was that, season 3? Walt tried to drag Jesse back into the game in season 5 and Jesse was having none of it. He's not the same kid that will allow himself to be dragged around by anyone.

[Non Sequitur]

Maybe, but so many of those times he as dragged down by Walt or someone else. Jesse's story isn't exactly him returning to his addiction. In fact, I don't remember the last time he even used.

When Jesse is in the hospital bed and Walt asks him to come back into the business, Jesse gets pissed and let's Walt know that it's over, no amount of money could ever get him back. Walt is barely out the door when Jesse calls Walt and let's him know he's back in. It's easy to say that Walt drags Jesse around, but Jesse has shown repeatably that he's more than willing to be dragged around.