Do you personally know someone that has murdered someone else?

[CardiacCoug]

This guy.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...de.html?pg=all

[dabrockster]

I know of 2. Not sure if the first one counts but to me it does.

1. A childhood friend (Well, not after what he did). He fatally shot my best friend with his father's 357 Magnum. He meant to play a joke on me, but instead pulled the trigger while my friend tied his shoes at the door (I was outside the door knocking. He liked to break into his father's guns and point them at us as a joke.). They considered it a accidental shooting and he was a juvenile. Never did any time (Probation till 18). I hate him to this day, something I am working on... His family moved out pretty quickly afterwards. He has all but disappeared. His father was in law enforcement from what I remember. Not sure if it was Tucson PD, or federal.

Every few years I try and see if he is anywhere on the internet. And this thread prompted me to see if I could find him. I did a broader search and came across this. He is about 9 years younger then the kid I knew but he is a spitting image of the guy. I am going to assume this is his younger brother.

http://www.sorarchives.com/directory...Tarwater_76973



2. High School kid. He was a trouble maker. Would call in bomb threats to get out of school. In fact, I witnessed him breaking into a neighbors house (I saw him and his little Bro loitering outside the home as I came home from practice. A few hours later police were on scene and I gave the eye-witness account. Provided testimony of it that put him in jail. Of course he was released. Later he killed a local businessman in another break-in. Got sent to prison 25 years to life. But he has not been a model prisoner and got another 95 years added to his sentence for stabbing a prison guard.

Mugshot:
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Ariz...f.8348121.html

http://www.paysonroundup.com/news/20...n_man_accused/

http://www.paysonroundup.com/news/20...ets_955/?print

[thesaint258]

I know someone who is accused of murdering his wife. It's strange to think of the person I knew growing up killing someone. I realize people can change, or perhaps the potential was always there, but If you had told me then what he would be accused of now, I wouldn't have believed it.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I hadn't voted until this morning, but right after I voted "No" my wife came in and reminded me that I knew fairly well (we played paintball together) a guy in our former stake who beat his wife's head in with a baseball bat. The linked article includes a few interesting details, including how breast implants contributed to the crime--Goatnapper will not like this one bit. But the husband was convicted of voluntary manslaughter, not murder, so I told Mrs. PAC to bug off--I was right!

BTW, I also worked with his wife on a couple of Church things. The missus also reminded me that my law school study carrel was next to Max Jensen's, who was Gary Gilmore's first murder victim back in '76, so I know multiple homicide victims.

[Jacob]

The fact that this poll has nearly 50% affirmative votes screams out how effed up our country is.

Murder rates and violent crime rates are low. Very low by historical standards. Maybe this only speaks to how effed up this forum is.

[Indy Coug]

Murder rates and violent crime rates are low. Very low by historical standards. Maybe this only speaks to how effed up this forum is.

I'm not sure how relative historical comparisons remove the absolute assessment of our current society.

[Pelado]

I hadn't voted until this morning, but right after I voted "No" my wife came in and reminded me that I knew fairly well (we played paintball together) a guy in our former stake who beat his wife's head in with a baseball bat. The linked article includes a few interesting details, including how breast implants contributed to the crime--Goatnapper will not like this one bit. But the husband was convicted of voluntary manslaughter, not murder, so I told Mrs. PAC to bug off--I was right!

BTW, I also worked with his wife on a couple of Church things. The missus also reminded me that my law school study carrel was next to Max Jensen's, who was Gary Gilmore's first murder victim back in '76, so I know multiple homicide victims.

I can't think of any murderers I know, but I did know at least two victims.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/datelin...0228/#51770228

http://www.klewtv.com/news/local/7578917.html

[clackamascoug]

I've know a couple of people that were murdered, but the one that really hurt me personally was my Gas Station Man - Patoosh. He owned a independent gas station which was the closest location that sold diesel for my TDI. I'd been going going to his station regularly for 10 years, and he'd greet me with enthusiasm with the same line - "Fill it up Boss?" I'd ask him a question here and there, and it turns out he was bringing family members over from Pakistan a couple at at time. He worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week. One night a hoodie wearing kid shot and killed him for $192 dollars. They never did catch him.

[Indy Coug]

I've know a couple of people that were murdered, but the one that really hurt me personally was my Gas Station Man - Patoosh. He owned a independent gas station which was the closest location that sold diesel for my TDI. I'd been going going to his station regularly for 10 years, and he'd greet me with enthusiasm with the same line - "Fill it up Boss?" I'd ask him a question here and there, and it turns out he was bringing family members over from Pakistan a couple at at time. He worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week. One night a hoodie wearing kid shot and killed him for $192 dollars. They never did catch him.

[imanihonjin]

I knew Martin Bond.....that kid who killed the former BYU engineering professor who lived in Payson.

[Donuthole]

I can't think of any murderers I know, but I did know at least two victims.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/datelin...0228/#51770228

http://www.klewtv.com/news/local/7578917.html

So apparently this guy's widow is now blogging about the experience. I've seen it linked a few times recently on FB. Some of it is really heartbreaking, but there is an awful lot of Mormon crazy mixed in there. I got sucked in for much of SS and the entirety of PH today. I realize I'm an ass for saying this, but I am very skeptical of many of the experiences shared. It is her way of coping, and I get it. But many of the stories seem like a textbook exercise in revisionist history.

http://www.themomentswestand.com

[Jeff Lebowski]

So apparently this guy's widow is now blogging about the experience. I've seen it linked a few times recently on FB. Some of it is really heartbreaking, but there is an awful lot of Mormon crazy mixed in there. I got sucked in for much of SS and the entirety of PH today. I realize I'm an ass for saying this, but I am very skeptical of many of the experiences shared. It is her way of coping, and I get it. But many of the stories seem like a textbook exercise in revisionist history.

http://www.themomentswestand.com

I had never heard about this story until my wife and I watched it being featured on Dateline NBC last year. At one point I turned to her and said, "Here we go. Another Mormon murder story."

You can watch it online:

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/51770228#51770228

[Pelado]

I had never heard about this story until my wife and I watched it being featured on Dateline NBC last year. At one point I turned to her and said, "Here we go. Another Mormon murder story."

You can watch it online:

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/51770228#51770228

Was my link somehow not good enough for you?