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  • Just returned from an excellent trip to Paris with my wife and 17 year old daughter. I think I mentioned the plans here somewhere before we left. Spent 2 days in Versailles with my Parents (Temple mission) before spending 4 days in Paris. Versailles is an underrated place. The palace is a great place to spend a couple of hours, but probably not more than 2-3 max, imo. The gardens are never ending, and were worth several hours of walking around. Unfortunately, the bikes and golf carts weren't available to rent, so we were on foot for our garden exploring. The downtown area of Versailles is very nice, with plenty of little shops and some decent restaurants, from what I could see. 2 days there was about right for us (for both the town and for hanging with the parents).

    In Paris we stayed in the Latin Quarter this trip. Absolutely loved it there and would highly recommend it as a launching point for seeing the city. Limitless restaurants and shops withing very short walking distance of our hotel, which was also a short walk from Notre Dame, Saint Chappelle/Conciergerie, the Musee D'Orsay, and the St Germain des pres area. There are also several metro stations nearby for getting everywhere else in town.

    We were looking forward to spending more time in the Montmartre area, which we did, but half a day there was plenty for me. The Place du tertre was very fun to walk around for an hour or so, but I was a little disappointed with the montmartre area in general. We found a great spot for lunch there, but the area wasn't nearly as vibrant and interesting there as I was expecting. I would prefer a short visit there to see the sights, in exchange for more time in the Latin Quarter and Le Marais districts.

    Musee D'Orsay was every bit as good as advertised, and was more enjoyable than the Louvre, imo. Saint Chappelle was amazing, but I was surprised at how small (and overpriced it was). Half an hour and we were ready to go. Don't get me wrong - its got the most amazing stained glass I've seen, but its 30-100 feet in the air and the chapel is really quite small.

    Saw a number of the other touristy sights, some of which we had seen before. But the best part of the trip for us was just roaming the neighborhoods and finding cool streets to explore. The food in Paris is amazing (with the exception of Beef Tartare, which is disgusting but I can now say I've tried and survived).

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    • And I would give a wholehearted endorsement to the Loire Valley for a change of pace from the big city. I haven't been to Normandy yet, but we absolutely loved the castle country in the Loire. Amboise is an amazing city and is a short drive to some of the incredible castles that someone just mentioned, like Chenonceau. Definitely worth a few days out there, in my opinion.

      Unless you want to travel with a tour bus, definitely need a car out there. Tours was the nearest place to rent a car that was near the train station. I did get my IDL, as I had read it was needed, but they didn't do anything more than glance and nod at it when I proudly pulled it out to show to them.

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        By the way, if you rent a car in Italy be prepared to be mailed an expensive speeding ticket a few months after you get home. Traffic cameras.
        Please tell me you didn't pay a foreign traffic ticket evidenced by camera and served on you via US mail.
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        • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

          Please tell me you didn't pay a foreign traffic ticket evidenced by camera and served on you via US mail.
          OK, I won't.
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          • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

            Please tell me you didn't pay a foreign traffic ticket evidenced by camera and served on you via US mail.
            Isn't it usually the rental car companies that pay that and then charge you for it (including a processing fee)?

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            • Originally posted by beefytee View Post

              Isn't it usually the rental car companies that pay that and then charge you for it (including a processing fee)?
              Yes.
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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                OK, I won't.
                LOL. Snowflake.
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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  Yes.
                  Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                  There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                  • Originally posted by bluegoose View Post
                    And I would give a wholehearted endorsement to the Loire Valley for a change of pace from the big city. I haven't been to Normandy yet, but we absolutely loved the castle country in the Loire. Amboise is an amazing city and is a short drive to some of the incredible castles that someone just mentioned, like Chenonceau. Definitely worth a few days out there, in my opinion.

                    Unless you want to travel with a tour bus, definitely need a car out there. Tours was the nearest place to rent a car that was near the train station. I did get my IDL, as I had read it was needed, but they didn't do anything more than glance and nod at it when I proudly pulled it out to show to them.
                    The Loire valley is awesome.

                    One thing in paris that I did last time that I loved was the tour of the Opera. That was really cool.

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                    • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

                      The Loire valley is awesome.

                      One thing in paris that I did last time that I loved was the tour of the Opera. That was really cool.
                      I wish we had done that. We were staying right across the street in the W.

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                      • Originally posted by bluegoose View Post
                        Just returned from an excellent trip to Paris with my wife and 17 year old daughter. I think I mentioned the plans here somewhere before we left. Spent 2 days in Versailles with my Parents (Temple mission) before spending 4 days in Paris. Versailles is an underrated place. The palace is a great place to spend a couple of hours, but probably not more than 2-3 max, imo. The gardens are never ending, and were worth several hours of walking around. Unfortunately, the bikes and golf carts weren't available to rent, so we were on foot for our garden exploring. The downtown area of Versailles is very nice, with plenty of little shops and some decent restaurants, from what I could see. 2 days there was about right for us (for both the town and for hanging with the parents).

                        In Paris we stayed in the Latin Quarter this trip. Absolutely loved it there and would highly recommend it as a launching point for seeing the city. Limitless restaurants and shops withing very short walking distance of our hotel, which was also a short walk from Notre Dame, Saint Chappelle/Conciergerie, the Musee D'Orsay, and the St Germain des pres area. There are also several metro stations nearby for getting everywhere else in town.

                        We were looking forward to spending more time in the Montmartre area, which we did, but half a day there was plenty for me. The Place du tertre was very fun to walk around for an hour or so, but I was a little disappointed with the montmartre area in general. We found a great spot for lunch there, but the area wasn't nearly as vibrant and interesting there as I was expecting. I would prefer a short visit there to see the sights, in exchange for more time in the Latin Quarter and Le Marais districts.

                        Musee D'Orsay was every bit as good as advertised, and was more enjoyable than the Louvre, imo. Saint Chappelle was amazing, but I was surprised at how small (and overpriced it was). Half an hour and we were ready to go. Don't get me wrong - its got the most amazing stained glass I've seen, but its 30-100 feet in the air and the chapel is really quite small.

                        Saw a number of the other touristy sights, some of which we had seen before. But the best part of the trip for us was just roaming the neighborhoods and finding cool streets to explore. The food in Paris is amazing (with the exception of Beef Tartare, which is disgusting but I can now say I've tried and survived).


                        the Latin quarter is awesome.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

                          The Loire valley is awesome.

                          One thing in paris that I did last time that I loved was the tour of the Opera. That was really cool.
                          Their website said they were open until 5:00, so we jumped on the metro at 3:45 to go check it out. Unfortunately, they shut the doors for tickets and tours 45 minutes before the place closes, right when we got there, and the security guy was unmoved by anyone even a minute late. So we only got to see the outside, which was super impressive.

                          We did see the Moulin Rouge when we were in Montmartre. Only the outside; no shows.

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                          • Who likes to travel over General Conference weekend? I've tried to shy away from this, but it's looking like we might be taking Bo Jr & his wife to Japan next year over spring break and GC weekend.

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                            • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                              Who likes to travel over General Conference weekend? I've tried to shy away from this, but it's looking like we might be taking Bo Jr & his wife to Japan next year over spring break and GC weekend.
                              To and from temple square a couple times
                              “Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman

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                              • Originally posted by Copelius View Post

                                To and from temple square a couple times
                                Now there's a destination! I think I've only made it up there once since it's moved to the Conference Center. We used to go up all the time when it was at Temple Square for the Priesthood Session when I was growing up.

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