BYU-I Pathways

[SCcoug]

I must have avoided all the brutal religion classes.

[Shaka]

Not even close. Pretty easy.

It's a great thing. There's something wrong with having to study just as hard for a religion credit as you do for a physics credit. The more I review this program the more I'm impressed.

[Shaka]

I must have avoided all the brutal religion classes.

Depended on the teacher. I did most of religion classes at the UVU Institute. They were cake and my BYU roommates were jealous. I constantly listened to the whine about how much effort hey had to put into the religion classes.

[byu71]

Hopefully the religion classes aren't as brutal as those at BYU.

I don't remember my religion classes. I can tell exactly where I sat for most of my accounting classes. Econ., marketing, statistics and quantitative analysis i also remember.

I am sure I didn't get a waiver though. I couldn't graduate unless I finished 1 more religion class. I took boy scouting that summer before heading on up to the U.

[Jeff Lebowski]

My son did this last year. He has a learning disability and had to have a lot of assistance in HS. He has a good job but he has always wanted to go to college (compares himself to his siblings all the time). He has matured quite a bit since HS so Pathway gave him an option to do a test run and see how it would go. It pushed him and the wife and I had to help him a ton, but he completed it successfully in 2016. It was a huge boost to his confidence and self esteem. Now he wants to get an online associate's degree through BYU-I in general studies. He is taking one course now and that is probably a good load given his full-time job.

Most of his classmates were people who had made some bad choices out of HS and were wanting to try college, but using this as a low-cost method to test the waters. Many of them were single moms. The program focuses on building your study skills in basic math and writing (and the religion courses). The goal is to give you the confidence and skills to work your way into a regular academic program. It was never intended to grant degrees. It is fantastic.

[Topper]

My son did this last year. He has a learning disability and had to have a lot of assistance in HS. He has a good job but he has always wanted to go to college (compares himself to his siblings all the time). He has matured quite a bit since HS so Pathway gave him an option to do a test run and see how it would go. It pushed him and the wife and I had to help him a ton, but he completed it successfully in 2016. It was a huge boost to his confidence and self esteem. Now he wants to get an online associate's degree through BYU-I in general studies. He is taking one course now and that is probably a good load given his full-time job.

Most of his classmates were people who had made some bad choices out of HS and were wanting to try college, but using this as a low-cost method to test the waters. Many of them were single moms. The program focuses on building your study skills in basic math and writing (and the religion courses). The goal is to give you the confidence and skills to work your way into a regular academic program. It was never intended to grant degrees. It is fantastic.

Good report.

[Shaka]

My son did this last year. He has a learning disability and had to have a lot of assistance in HS. He has a good job but he has always wanted to go to college (compares himself to his siblings all the time). He has matured quite a bit since HS so Pathway gave him an option to do a test run and see how it would go. It pushed him and the wife and I had to help him a ton, but he completed it successfully in 2016. It was a huge boost to his confidence and self esteem. Now he wants to get an online associate's degree through BYU-I in general studies. He is taking one course now and that is probably a good load given his full-time job.

Most of his classmates were people who had made some bad choices out of HS and were wanting to try college, but using this as a low-cost method to test the waters. Many of them were single moms. The program focuses on building your study skills in basic math and writing (and the religion courses). The goal is to give you the confidence and skills to work your way into a regular academic program. It was never intended to grant degrees. It is fantastic.

I've already told a couple of my single mom friends about the program. Also it seems to me the new changes may make it easier for those who want to seek a four year degree. Hopefully they have a general business major or something like it where people can get a generic business degree without having to compete for slots in a finance, econ, or info systems major.

I work in a factory and there are a great many production workers that eventually realize that their high school diploma isn't cutting it as far as earning a good living wage. We do have those in the plant who lack a degree that have advanced because they demonstrated the ability to do higher level work and have moved up. This program would be a boon to both of those groups. I wonder if there's a provision for non-LDS folks?

[Applejack]

I've seen many presentations on the Pathway program. If I remember correctly, Pathway is setup as a prep program so you can basically get admitted to the BYU-I online system and finish or complete your degree that way. The nice thing is that it's cheap and online. The bad thing is that it's a BYU-I online degree, which can be good if you just need skillz and don't need to flaunt a degree from a crazy good college.

Oh, and you also have to have an EE and sign the honor code, so bust out the razor!!

You have to sign the honor code to take online classes? Man, BYU is crazy.

[Shaka]

I thought I read somewhere that an EE wouldn't be required to start the program.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I thought I read somewhere that an EE wouldn't be required to start the program.

No, you do not need an ecclesiastical endorsement. Moliere is confused again.

https://pathway.lds.org/join

[Jeff Lebowski]

You have to sign the honor code to take online classes? Man, BYU is crazy.

No test score requirement to join. No fees. Staffed by volunteers and church employees. No ecclesiastical endorsement required. All to help people get their lives in order and build the skills/confidence required to get a college education. CRAZY!

[The_Tick]

Correct. But if you matriculate to BYU-I, you are doing the annual EE.

I have never attending school on a BYU campus, but I can tell you I am doing 10-12 hours a week in my Research Methods course (Psych) and I am probably doing 8-9 hours a week on my religion course (The Restoration). It is an absurd amount of work for a 2 credit religion course. Fortunately I only have 1 more of those to take after this semester and I am done with the actual religion classes.

I'll tell you this though, I have never wanted to strangle someone more in my life than my Research Methods teacher. I'm struggling in the class, not because of the coursework, but because the online format is extremely vague and confusing. He is an adjunct professor from a college in eastern Washington. So this is his part time gig, not his full time gig. I explained the issues that I was having, and his response back was "Have you thought to pray about it?" PRAYER MFer? I was super hot.

When the class plagarism score on an assignment on turnitin.com is 56%, and the class average on the assignment is a C-, it might mean there is a communication issue. Prayer isn't needed.

I can tell you that is the only downside I have experienced in the program. Lots of teachers like to throw a bunch of religious stuff in when it isn't really needed. I get it, but it's dumb.

[Pelado]

I must have avoided all the brutal religion classes.

I lucked into avoiding one once.

[falafel]

Correct. But if you matriculate to BYU-I, you are doing the annual EE.

I have never attending school on a BYU campus, but I can tell you I am doing 10-12 hours a week in my Research Methods course (Psych) and I am probably doing 8-9 hours a week on my religion course (The Restoration). It is an absurd amount of work for a 2 credit religion course. Fortunately I only have 1 more of those to take after this semester and I am done with the actual religion classes.

I'll tell you this though, I have never wanted to strangle someone more in my life than my Research Methods teacher. I'm struggling in the class, not because of the coursework, but because the online format is extremely vague and confusing. He is an adjunct professor from a college in eastern Washington. So this is his part time gig, not his full time gig. I explained the issues that I was having, and his response back was "Have you thought to pray about it?" PRAYER MFer? I was super hot.

[Solon]

No test score requirement to join. No fees. Staffed by volunteers and church employees. No ecclesiastical endorsement required. All to help people get their lives in order and build the skills/confidence required to get a college education. CRAZY!

SUU has a program along these lines, but it's not online.
It is a really nice program for the community.
https://www.suu.edu/hss/venture/

The BYU-I program will impact huge amounts of people, if they do it right.