Levin's new project

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I'm happiest at a craps table when the shooter has hit a 4 or 10 for the 4th or more time.

[Non Sequitur]

I'm happiest at a craps table when the shooter has hit a 4 or 10 for the 4th or more time.

Vegas loves you.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Vegas loves you.

It's mutual.

[UVACoug]

Why don't you just try taking 1 year off? Enjoy your Sundays. Or do something real (e.g., help the homeless on Sundays instead of sitting in church for 3 hours).

I think time spent in Church is pretty much a complete waste. I have found that there is absolutely no comparison between doing productive, life-changing things and wasting time in Church meetings.

For me, a major turning poing was back in residency when people at Church were trying to reactivate me while I was missing meetings mostly just because of work obligations. Pretty much no one seemed to accept the explanation that I had to work most Sundays. (It was bizarre. But most of the LDS residents in the ward had specialties where they didn't have to work very many Sundays.)

It made me think about where I would rather be and what had more meaning, and honestly--there was absolutely no comparison between helping sick people and attending church meetings. It wasn't even close. It also made me realize that there are a million genuinely productive things that can be done on Sunday instead of participating in discussions about mythology for hours on end.

I know that the Church organizes service projects, etc. But in reality, the Church spends only a tiny fraction of its money on welfare and charity. Generally, I consider Church meetings, temple worship, and most other activities to be silly community distractions from the real world rather than genuine solutions to life's problems.

The amount of human effort that is wasted in religion is completely mind boggling. If humanity spent 1/10th that money and time effort in pursuit of real things, the entire world would be a remarkably better place.

Leaving the Church has been a liberating experience for both me and my wife. I highly recommend it. That said, I know it's hard to leave if the entire family isn't on board.

Sooner makes a good point here. If he hadn't left the Church, there is no way he would have enough time to do all the great things that he does with his life now ... such as post the lengthy, and insightful, diatribes that he posts on this board (such as the one above). I know my life would not be nearly as rich as it is if Sooner's church attendance kept him from spending hours every week on CS. Thank you, Sooner.

[old_gregg]

Earlier in the thread someone made a reference to "withholding" a degree when someone has lost faith or left the Church. That seems like a totally different issue than the one being discussed. Is BYU actually withholding degrees or the transferring of credits if someone leaves the Church? That seems pretty egregious but also hard to believe.

haven't read this thread so i'm not sure if anybody posted this, but the honor code explicitly says:

Students who are not in good Honor Code standing are not eligible for graduation, even if they have otherwise completed all necessary coursework.

[All-American]

haven't read this thread so i'm not sure if anybody posted this, but the honor code explicitly says:

So jimmy Mac was HC compliant? Awesome.

[Moliere]

So jimmy Mac was HC compliant? Awesome.

As far as he can remember...

[clackamascoug]

As far as he can remember...

... and I'm insensitive?

[wuapinmon]

I'm happiest at a craps table when the shooter has hit a 4 or 10 for the 4th or more time.

"HELL YEAH, I'LL PRESS IT"

[Jeff Lebowski]

ABA drops discrimination complaint against BYU law school

Interesting...

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/education/college/byu/american-bar-association-closes-discrimation-complaint-against-byu-s-law/article_33189e71-a022-53a7-b3ba-18b6824c0b3a.html#utm_source=heraldextra.com&utm_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=3B8DA22CF7B6FD6AC1B9285F5E90F8DE6483131D

Tried to find an earlier thread on this but failed. Seems like we talked about it.

[SCcoug]

Interesting...

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/education/college/byu/american-bar-association-closes-discrimation-complaint-against-byu-s-law/article_33189e71-a022-53a7-b3ba-18b6824c0b3a.html#utm_source=heraldextra.com&utm_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=3B8DA22CF7B6FD6AC1B9285F5E90F8DE6483131D

Tried to find an earlier thread on this but failed. Seems like we talked about it.

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthread.php?74715-Levin-s-new-project

[Jeff Lebowski]

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...-s-new-project

Merged. Thanks.