Landscaping.............

[RobinFinderson]

Serious answer: get a post-emergent spray that kills broad leaf stuff in your lawn. In California, they sold some stuff from a company named Monterey. It comes in a concentrated liquid so you'll have to get a sprayer. I sprayed my grandparents lawn and it discolored the entire laws for awhile, but it killed the broad leaf stuff and the lawn came back better than ever after around a week. You need to get it done before it gets really hot or it stresses the lawn some more.

You're not going to find something like this at Home Depot (most likely). Go to a nursery or a sprinkler/landscaping supply store where all the landscapers go.

After you get it out of your lawn, start applying pre-emergent granules around 2-3 times a year to keep broad leaf stuff from getting back in. You can buy this anywhere- Scotts makes something like this that both fertilzes the lawn and applies the pre-emergent.

Awesome. Spray poison all over your lawn. Let that poison sink into the ground water, get all over animal/children feet, blow around in the breeze and increase the overall toxicity level in the environment.

Seriously, why do people ignore the ethical implications of a green luscious lawn? Immaculate lawn keepers put vanity before ethics. The writing is on the wall - lawns are an ethical disaster. Why doesn't this matter to most Mormons? When it comes to lawns, why do you put vanity and pride before ethical behavior?

[RobinFinderson]

A lawn is like the Humvee of landscape design.

[Guest]

Awesome. Spray poison all over your lawn. Let that poison sink into the ground water, get all over animal/children feet, blow around in the breeze and increase the overall toxicity level in the environment.

Seriously, why do people ignore the ethical implications of a green luscious lawn? Immaculate lawn keepers put vanity before ethics. The writing is on the wall - lawns are an ethical disaster. Why doesn't this matter to most Mormons? When it comes to lawns, why do you put vanity and pride before ethical behavior?

Based on this logic, I say we raze the whole of what is The City of Angels.

[Babs]

Why doesn't this matter to most Mormons? When it comes to lawns, why do you put vanity and pride before ethical behavior?

It's not a Mormon thing, Robin. It's an American thing.

[TripletDaddy]

Don't water it? Are you kidding? Utah is a desert.

Not only will I expand my sprinkler system, I'm going to triple the number of sprinkler heads I have. I'll also water my lawn every day and each station will run for no less than 60 minutes.

The idea is to have a green lawn.

Whenever I visit my in-laws, it seems that they are watering their lawn (unless it is December/Christmas time). This past week we were there, it seemed like the sprinklers were running constantly. I have no idea how much water they waste, but it boggles my mind. They also run the dishwasher when it has 10 dishes in it.

My FIL spent all day Saturday on the riding mower (they have a huge backyard), watering, edging, all sorts of stuff.

What a huge waste of time!

[RobinFinderson]

It's not a Mormon thing, Robin. It's an American thing.

You are right. But I have higher expectations from people who are members of organizations that encourage good/ethical living (even if they leave members to figure out what this means on their own).

America, in general, is improving on this point. Can the same be said for the body of the church?

[RobinFinderson]

Based on this logic, I say we raze the whole of what is The City of Angels.

Is this the best you can do? There is a whole lot of middle between the extremes. We know a lot more about our water supply today than we did twenty years ago. We are no longer ignorant about the impact of lawns on the environment and water supply. Ethics requires ethical people to act on this new knowledge (or you can remain blissfully ignorant).

[YOhio]

Whenever I visit my in-laws, it seems that they are watering their lawn (unless it is December/Christmas time). This past week we were there, it seemed like the sprinklers were running constantly. I have no idea how much water they waste, but it boggles my mind. They also run the dishwasher when it has 10 dishes in it.

My FIL spent all day Saturday on the riding mower (they have a huge backyard), watering, edging, all sorts of stuff.

What a huge waste of time!

Sounds like you're FIL would rather do dishes, mow and water the lawn than spend time with you. He probably thinks you're too critical.

[YOhio]

Seriously, why do people ignore the ethical implications of a green luscious lawn? Immaculate lawn keepers put vanity before ethics. The writing is on the wall - lawns are an ethical disaster. Why doesn't this matter to most Mormons? When it comes to lawns, why do you put vanity and pride before ethical behavior?

I recommend you dismount the high horse if you're seeking real discussion.

[YOhio]

Your idea is to suckle at big government's teet. Congrats. Every drop of municipal water you feed that lawn represents a drop of dependence on a socialized system. I always knew you were a commie at heart. I just didn't know your price would be so cheap. Green lawn = red heart.

lol! Il Pad Socialist strikes again.

[TripletDaddy]

Sounds like you're FIL would rather do dishes, mow and water the lawn than spend time with you. He probably thinks you're too critical.

My visits with my Utah FIL are funny, in an awkward way. We discuss the weather, the kids, and my wife. Sometimes we talk about steak or grilling. One time he asked me about tattoos. Every 5th or so visit, he will ask if I have "seen any famous people in LA."

When we do find some great commonality, it usually gets pushed to the forefront of all our conversations for that particular visit. For example, one time we went to visit in the Fall for a football game and to take our daughter to a corn maze. I made an offhand remark about liking caramel popcorn. He asked my MIL to make caramel popcorn every night we were there. In fact, there were bowls of it all over the place for the rest of the visit. On our last day, he sent us off with a large bag of caramel popcorn for the plane ride home. And now, whenever anyone eats popcorn, he will remind us all about "that one time we had caramel popcorn around Halloween."

He is a good man. A decent man. And I really appreciate his kindness. But our visits are sometimes awkward. It reminds me of Peter Fonda and his grandson in "On Golden Pond." I think the next time I go up there, I am going to ask my FIL if he wants to cruise chicks and suck face.

[Guest]

Is this the best you can do? There is a whole lot of middle between the extremes. We know a lot more about our water supply today than we did twenty years ago. We are no longer ignorant about the impact of lawns on the environment and water supply. Ethics requires ethical people to act on this new knowledge (or you can remain blissfully ignorant).

The day we have to worry about fresh water supplies where I currently live, we'll all be in *a lot* of trouble.

For you in the southlands, regulate usage trough rates. Allocate an average CCF per household and charge a premium for those who spend more, but make the tiers steep (not common). Use the market as your friend.

As Pavement once said about CA, "The south takes what the north delivers." Just ask Owens or Mono Lakes or the mudflats where the Colorado used to enter the Gulf of California.

[Guest]

He is a good man. A decent man. And I really appreciate his kindness. But our visits are sometimes awkward.

He's Joe Simpson to your Nick Lachey.

[RobinFinderson]

The day we have to worry about fresh water supplies where I currently live, we'll all be in *a lot* of trouble.

Where do you live??

[RobinFinderson]

I recommend you dismount the high horse if you're seeking real discussion.

(I'm not sure if I am)