Here is a shocker

[Coach McGuirk]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6700180

Report: Half of Utah's college students don't graduate within 6 years
June 3rd, 2009 @ 2:08pm
By Becky Bruce
SALT LAKE CITY -- A new report suggests barely half of Utah's college students come out with a degree in six years.
The study, called Diplomas and Dropouts, compares some 1,400 colleges and universities nationwide. At the U, the report found 56 percent of students come out with a degree in under six years. That's within the national average.
"We have the LDS issue here in Utah, that makes our numbers a little bit different than others," Associate Vice President for budget and planning at the U Paul Brinkman said.
He says if you extend past six years to account for missions and marriages, the U's rate goes up to 60 percent.
BYU's rate is closer to 78 percent, which is typical for schools with more selective admission.

[Babs]

"the LDS issue" that's funny. I also like how they undermine UU in the last sentence.

[Coach McGuirk]

I also like how they undermine UU in the last sentence.

It's my favorite part.

[cougjunkie]

"the LDS issue" that's funny. I also like how they undermine UU in the last sentence.

Yeah if you account for missions and marriages it goes up a whopping 4%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Indy Coug]

I was on a 1985 to 1993 Bachelor degree track. That included one switch of major and a degree that required essentially 5 years worth of credit hours. I also sat out for 9 months rehabbing an ACL reconstruction before going on my mission.

[Babs]

Yeah if you account for missions and marriages it goes up a whopping 6%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4%, I think. Which school did you go to again??

[Babs]

After looking up the rates in the Big 12, I've concluded that UU qualifies as "more selective," too.

[wuapinmon]

I didn't go to college before the mission, but I took 12 years to finish.

[cougjunkie]

4%, I think. Which school did you go to again??

whoops, neither I went to OU.

[Donuthole]

whoops, neither I went to OU.

Yeah, Orem University

[Babs]

Yeah, Orem University

Oregon, maybe.

[Mormon Red Death]

Let me stand in defense of the mighty University of Utah and why its LDS problem is slightly different. A lot of byu students come from out of state and therefore go to the Y for a year before they go on their missions. They get apartments for the entire year etc... Since the U is a commuter campuses its young men go on missions when they turn 19. Maybe they do a semester and leave etc... (Myself and Solon were one both this way). Thus when they come back from their mission they have longer than a typical mormon Y student but their "clock" has already started.

[Donuthole]

Let me stand in defense of the mighty University of Utah and why its LDS problem is slightly different. A lot of byu students come from out of state and therefore go to the Y for a year before they go on their missions. They get apartments for the entire year etc... Since the U is a commuter campuses its young men go on missions when they turn 19. Maybe they do a semester and leave etc... (Myself and Solon were one both this way). Thus when they come back from their mission they have longer than a typical mormon Y student but their "clock" has already started.

That only affects anything if you take a semester off after you get back from your mission. Otherwise, you get back a semester earlier, and should, in theory, be caught up to the BYU student when he returns from his mission.

[beelzebabette]

Let me stand in defense of the mighty University of Utah and why its LDS problem is slightly different. A lot of byu students come from out of state and therefore go to the Y for a year before they go on their missions. They get apartments for the entire year etc... Since the U is a commuter campuses its young men go on missions when they turn 19. Maybe they do a semester and leave etc... (Myself and Solon were one both this way). Thus when they come back from their mission they have longer than a typical mormon Y student but their "clock" has already started.

Sorry. I don't follow. The best I could surmise rereading this is: BYU students typically leave on missions and return during the summer and thereby only miss two years of school. UofU commuter missionaries might leave during winter semester and then not return to school until fall thereby missing 2-1/2 years of school. Is that what you were saying?

[Mormon Red Death]

That only affects anything if you take a semester off after you get back from your mission. Otherwise, you get back a semester earlier, and should, in theory, be caught up to the BYU student when he returns from his mission.

Not really... you take one semester and leave on your mission in February and then start school until the September after you are back.