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  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #16
    Originally posted by SandYFan View Post
    Look, if I have no desire to act on my feelings, do I need to get over the person the feelings are for?

    It's weird to me that I'm weird on this. No one else has feelings they cannot entirely erase?

    There are some people that I hate so badly for things they've done that no amount of time seems to make me hate them less. The young man who tried to get me to fellate him when I was 6 and he was 13 enrages a wrath in me to this very day that makes me want to slowly and methodically sever pieces of his body from their proper place and then show them to him. Luckily, he was unsuccessful in his attempt to molest me, but the terror I felt as I ran to a neighbor's house and banged on their door screaming and crying is not something easily forgotten. So, I know of hatred that doesn't die.

    But, as for love, 'feelings' as it were, I don't feel anything for people I used to think I loved. If I did, that'd be very difficult to cope with, especially in moments of despair or weakness that present themselves in any relationship.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • Indy Coug
      Heartless Bastard
      • Dec 2008
      • 18747

      #17
      First and foremost, if you don't believe you can alter feelings that you believe are inappropriate, you are denying the power of the Atonement.

      I have personally experienced a complete change of feelings towards several people, and that change came from within, not because of things these people did.
      Everything in life is an approximation.

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      • Pelado
        Bald not naked
        • Sep 2010
        • 21131

        #18
        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
        First and foremost, if you don't believe you can alter feelings that you believe are inappropriate, you are denying the power of the Atonement.

        I have personally experienced a complete change of feelings towards several people, and that change came from within, not because of things these people did.
        From hatred to pity? From pity to love? From love to disdain? From disdain to hatred?
        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
        - Goatnapper'96

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        • old_gregg
          scaly man fish
          • Nov 2009
          • 16915

          #19
          Originally posted by Jacob View Post
          How do you erase feelings? How do you create feelings? Why do you feel? I find that life can be perfectly pleasant absent these "feelings."
          nicely done
          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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          • Indy Coug
            Heartless Bastard
            • Dec 2008
            • 18747

            #20
            Originally posted by Pelado View Post
            From hatred to pity? From pity to love? From love to disdain? From disdain to hatred?
            My feelings towards you just changed right now. Where do you live again?
            Everything in life is an approximation.

            http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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            • Bo Diddley
              Senior
              • Jul 2012
              • 18769

              #21
              Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
              First and foremost, if you don't believe you can alter feelings that you believe are inappropriate, you are denying the power of the Atonement.

              I have personally experienced a complete change of feelings towards several people, and that change came from within, not because of things these people did.
              Before I got to this post, this is exactly what I was going to post. I too can verify the power of the Atonement here.

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              • Pelado
                Bald not naked
                • Sep 2010
                • 21131

                #22
                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                My feelings towards you just changed right now. Where do you live again?
                I'm not sure I want to release that information in light of your recent change. Let's just say I'm north of Mexico and south of Canada.
                "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                - Goatnapper'96

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                • Drunk Tank
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2569

                  #23
                  Just turn the feelings to hate. Then one day you'll wake up and wonder why you hate that person and then you'll just let it go and all will be well.
                  "I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's a$$, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it". - Tommy Callahan III

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                  • Sullyute
                    a day late/a dollar short
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 3308

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                    First and foremost, if you don't believe you can alter feelings that you believe are inappropriate, you are denying the power of the atonement.
                    Does this go for gay mormons who have tried everything to alter their feelings or attraction to their same gender but to no avail?
                    "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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                    • SandYFan
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 754

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                      Does this go for gay mormons who have tried everything to alter their feelings or attraction to their same gender but to no avail?
                      Now THAT is how you hijack a thread.

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                      • Katy Lied
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 9435

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                        Not sure if this is related or the place, but recently I have heard stories from some divorcing couples. In both cases the woman said, "I never loved you". This is so blatantly a lie. So disingenuous. I can see that they say these things to hurt their soon to be former spouse, but why even try and pass it off as truth. I just don't get it.
                        I wonder why women say that. I think it is to avoid the cognitive dissonance that comes with the divorce. Yadda yadda so many LDS women are raised with the expectation that they will marry their prince in shining armor, someone designated for them in the pre-existence and it will be beautiful and a marriage made in heaven... yadda yadda.

                        Then when confronted with a fallible human being, it is much easier to decide that you were wrong all along, and this was not "THE ONE" for you. "THE ONE" is out there, and he's waiting for you to rectify this mistake (your current marriage and kids) and find him, your one true love. To these women, "I never loved you" really means that you are not THE ONE, and it is noble and good for me to keep searching to find my true love. Who is not you.

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                        • Mrs. Funk
                          Lawyer Wannabe
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2690

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                          I wonder why women say that. I think it is to avoid the cognitive dissonance that comes with the divorce. Yadda yadda so many LDS women are raised with the expectation that they will marry their prince in shining armor, someone designated for them in the pre-existence and it will be beautiful and a marriage made in heaven... yadda yadda.

                          Then when confronted with a fallible human being, it is much easier to decide that you were wrong all along, and this was not "THE ONE" for you. "THE ONE" is out there, and he's waiting for you to rectify this mistake (your current marriage and kids) and find him, your one true love. To these women, "I never loved you" really means that you are not THE ONE, and it is noble and good for me to keep searching to find my true love. Who is not you.
                          I think you nailed it.
                          "You know, I was looking at your shirt and your scarf and I was thinking that if you had leaned over, I could have seen everything." ~Trial Ad Judge

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                          • Paperback Writer
                            Signature won a Pulitzer
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5211

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                            I wonder why women say that. I think it is to avoid the cognitive dissonance that comes with the divorce. Yadda yadda so many LDS women are raised with the expectation that they will marry their prince in shining armor, someone designated for them in the pre-existence and it will be beautiful and a marriage made in heaven... yadda yadda.

                            Then when confronted with a fallible human being, it is much easier to decide that you were wrong all along, and this was not "THE ONE" for you. "THE ONE" is out there, and he's waiting for you to rectify this mistake (your current marriage and kids) and find him, your one true love. To these women, "I never loved you" really means that you are not THE ONE, and it is noble and good for me to keep searching to find my true love. Who is not you.
                            Excellent post. I wonder if both genders follow that "train of thought"? In other words, she wasn't "THE ONE"....

                            Eternal matchmaking would be so much easier if the veil were removed just enough so that one was sure that someone was "THE ONE" designated for them in the pre-existence. Absent that, a Harry Potter sorting hat would certainly help...

                            Also, in some (many?) instances, its not just LDS YW (or YM) being raised that there is someone designated for them in the pre-existence. Many patriarchal blessings state as much. The harsh reality is that maybe they did marry "THE ONE"; someone as flawed and inperfect as themself.
                            “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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                            • clackamascoug
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9709

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                              I wonder why women say that. I think it is to avoid the cognitive dissonance that comes with the divorce. Yadda yadda so many LDS women are raised with the expectation that they will marry their prince in shining armor, someone designated for them in the pre-existence and it will be beautiful and a marriage made in heaven... yadda yadda.

                              Then when confronted with a fallible human being, it is much easier to decide that you were wrong all along, and this was not "THE ONE" for you. "THE ONE" is out there, and he's waiting for you to rectify this mistake (your current marriage and kids) and find him, your one true love. To these women, "I never loved you" really means that you are not THE ONE, and it is noble and good for me to keep searching to find my true love. Who is not you.
                              Katy, this is among the most insightful things I've ever read on line.
                              Last edited by clackamascoug; 08-07-2013, 10:32 AM.

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                              • statman
                                Rabblerouser
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2799

                                #30
                                Time erases them.

                                I agree that you can have feelings you can't necessarily control - but you can control entertaining those feelings.

                                I had a gf all through high school who started at BYU the same time I did, who was "waiting for me" when I went on my mission. I left BYU in Dec 1984, got home from my mission in March 1987, and in those 27 months, she found a new dude, got engaged, married and had a child. I thought little of her after getting DJed a month out of the MTC. And I had virtually no conscious thought about her in the 26.5 years since. But she'd occasionally make an appearance in my dreams. It would freak me out when it happened - I felt unfaithful even though they weren't those kinds of dreams. So at some level, I agree there's nothing you can do about feelings. But they did diminish in frequency until I hadn't had a thought about her conscious or unconscious for probably a decade - and then earlier this year she sent me a friend request. I deleted it and haven't thought twice about it - until now. Thanks for that. If I didn't live in the next county over, I might have at least accepted her friend request. But probably not...

                                I did do a quick look of her facebook page and on some of her sibling's blogs. It seems that my life in the intervening years has been a lot happier than hers: Marriage.
                                Kid.
                                Divorce.
                                Left the Church.
                                Out of wedlock kid.
                                Marriage.
                                Divorce.
                                Four grandchildren with no married children.
                                Kind of come back to the church.
                                Marriage.
                                Trolling long-term ex-boyfriends on Facebook.
                                ...

                                Success is the sweetest revenge - and a bit of Schadenfreude never hurts either...
                                Last edited by statman; 08-06-2013, 05:43 PM.

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